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To: musanon

But the parts you bolded merely re-state Article V of the original Constitution. Congress and the States are specifically delegated the power to change the Constitution itself. There is nothing in that document limiting the changes to certain "principles," that I know of anyway. Can you point to such a limitation?

I agree that the 18th was a bad idea, as would be repeal of the 2nd (which would be a casus belli for me), but the Constitution provides for it. "Unconstitutional" means prohibited by a constitution; it is not synonymous with "unprincipled."


286 posted on 07/12/2005 8:48:42 PM PDT by Ruadh (Liberty is not a means to a political end. It is itself the highest political end. — LORD ACTON)
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To: Ruadh
Ruadh wrote:

But the parts you bolded merely re-state Article V of the original Constitution.

" --- You will have declared that --- Congress, plus a majority of the --- States, may enact any legislation they please without any reference to the limitations of the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights itself. -- "
This 'bolded' part of Roots argument makes perfect sense as an argument of principle.

Quorums are not the point.
Root 'boldly' argued that alcohol prohibition is an unconstitutional infringement on our basic individual rights. -- Much as an amendment prohibiting guns would be unconstitutional. He was arguing principle.

Congress and the States are specifically delegated the power to change the Constitution itself.

With the proviso that amendments be " -- Valid to all Intents and Purposes, -- "

There is nothing in that document limiting the changes to certain "principles," that I know of anyway. Can you point to such a limitation?

The Constitutions basic principles [that individual human rights are to be protected] are scattered throughout the document. There is nothing in the Constitution giving government or majorities the power to 'amend away' our individual rights to life, liberty, or property. Can you point to such a power?

I agree that the 18th was a bad idea, as would be repeal of the 2nd (which would be a casus belli for me), but the Constitution provides for it.

Why do you want government to have a power you agree is a bad idea?

"Unconstitutional" means prohibited by a constitution; it is not synonymous with "unprincipled."

Wordplay. - An amendment, repealing the 2nd for instance, - would be repugnant to the document and could be termed both unprincipled & unconstitutional.

287 posted on 07/13/2005 6:46:12 AM PDT by musanon
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