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Russia and Europe tout new space plane
The Register ^
| 07/05/05
| Lucy Sheriff
Posted on 07/05/2005 6:33:45 PM PDT by KevinDavis
Russia and Europe are in talks to build a new a space plane that will fly missions to the International Space Station once Shuttle's final flight is over in 2010.
The new plane would have a lot of new ideas in its design, explains RKK Energuya engineer Vladimir Daneev. "Since the construction of the Shuttle and Buran, a lot of new materials have been found and new technologies have appeared," he said. "We will use all this Russian know-how in the new spacecraft, and we are eager to incorporate a maximum of European technology in the design."
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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: eu; iss; space; spaceplane
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posted on
07/05/2005 6:34:18 PM PDT
by
KevinDavis
(the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
To: KevinDavis
Have we given them the design, yet?
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posted on
07/05/2005 6:35:54 PM PDT
by
FreeAtlanta
(never surrender, this is for the kids)
To: FreeAtlanta; All
Here it is:
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posted on
07/05/2005 6:39:05 PM PDT
by
KevinDavis
(the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
To: KevinDavis
Looks like it says "Clipper" on it.
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posted on
07/05/2005 6:43:37 PM PDT
by
tahotdog
To: KevinDavis
These authors need to give us a break!
The Ruskies copied our shuttle long ago from declassified and unclassified documents, and I believe, actually built an unmanned version of it.
I don't remember if they ever deployed it.
Let them start to build copies of twenty year old technology while we continue forward.
Idiots.
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posted on
07/05/2005 6:46:56 PM PDT
by
bill1952
("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
To: KevinDavis
The Russians were heard to say, "We are willing to take your latest designs if you are willing to give them to us."
A Chinese official in the background just laughed thinking, "And we are willing to steal the latest designs if you are stupid enough to let us."
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posted on
07/05/2005 6:47:11 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
To: bill1952
The Buran flew, orbited, and returned. Unmanned. One of them was destroyed while in storage.
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posted on
07/05/2005 7:01:52 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
To: RightWhale
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posted on
07/05/2005 7:03:44 PM PDT
by
bill1952
("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
To: KevinDavis
That looks suspiciously like this, with wings;
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posted on
07/05/2005 7:12:08 PM PDT
by
FreeAtlanta
(never surrender, this is for the kids)
To: bill1952
The Ruskies copied our shuttle long ago from declassified and unclassified documents, and I believe, actually built an unmanned version of it. I don't remember if they ever deployed it.
They called it Buran. It was "man rated", at least in the soviet sense. They made one unmanned orbital flight before the program ran out of money.
Energia-Buran sits on the "left" launch pad at Site 110. View from the north. Credit: RKK Energia
Energia-Buran blasts off from Baikonur on November 15, 1988. Credit: RKK Energia
The Antonov-225/Mriya transport plane, carrying Buran orbiter, sits on the runway at Site 251 in Baikonur. Credit: RKK Energia
To: bill1952
This will be interesting, nasa giving up on space planes and going back to capsules and the Russians attempting a space plane instead of building more better capsules.
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posted on
07/05/2005 7:32:07 PM PDT
by
jpsb
(I already know I am a terrible speller)
To: KevinDavis
Looks like a goofy Gerry Anderdson creation.
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posted on
07/05/2005 7:32:08 PM PDT
by
Kirkwood
To: KevinDavis
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posted on
07/05/2005 7:35:19 PM PDT
by
TBall
To: RightWhale
I think the Buran was the result of tremendous practical joke we played on the Russians. After they spent a huge amount of time and money to get one to fly, it became apparent that it was a terrible way of going to space.
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posted on
07/05/2005 8:27:25 PM PDT
by
Brett66
(Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
To: Brett66
They never had the problem of trying to use civilian space for military projects. We do, not sure why.
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posted on
07/05/2005 8:33:26 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
To: FreeAtlanta
Have we given them the design, yet? LOL! Almost spewed my drink! :)
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posted on
07/05/2005 8:52:48 PM PDT
by
MarineBrat
(We are taxed twice as much by our idleness. -- Benjamin Franklin)
To: KevinDavis
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posted on
07/05/2005 9:49:42 PM PDT
by
klpt
To: klpt
What the heck is that? Looks pretty sinister.
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posted on
07/06/2005 3:12:01 AM PDT
by
Arkie2
(No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
To: Professional Engineer
Actually, a friend of mine who worked for NASA told me long ago that, the Russians may used our shuttle design as a base, but in the end Buran was for more usable and reliable.
They just ran out of money. The Russian space agency has never had deep pockets and can't afford to throw away money on progams that only halfway work.
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