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If you are referring to me as a Catholic basher you are mistaken. I am Catholic and my mom taught/ran the CCD program at our parish for years.

It is not only the idea of them kicking out kids that gets me, but using bar-coded envelopes to track donations and attendance. That is just too sign of the devil, big government like of them.

If the kids are going and the teacher is good something is getting through. Kids are NOT stupid and totally in need of parents to learn.

Repetition of prayer with or without, mommy, daddy, big brother parish can have stunning effects on a child. Several I knew from my childhood days whose parents and family life was terrible are now outstanding Catholics, citizens, and just good people in our community and parish.

Something got through to them, even if it was just and hour or two in CCD every week... and no bar-codes back then.

Humm. Who would have thought it possible with no bar-codes to track them and or their parents?

That priest just seems to think like a government official. Things not according to his plan so nothing will be learned. The Holy Spirit will not get through? The children might just be getting enough to learn right from wrong. Some guiding influence will get through. We need to have that sort of faith.

Explain then how so many saints came from un-Catholic beginnings to be saints? Jeez with no bar-codes I just can't see how it was possible.

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well then you and i misunderstand each other. i am not defending or denouncing the priest for what he did in this situation. I think it is a problem that kids are not taken to Mass, but i also don't think they should be penalized for it and denied a catholic education (via CCD). it is a problem for which i don't have an answer. But for those insinuating somehow that nonCatholics should be in CCD classes, and that it should be used as an evangelization opportunity, well that's just silly. It isn't designed for that and there can be other means to reach out to others of different faiths. Until my youngest was diagnosed with the learning disability all three of my kids were in Catholic school. In Northern VA catholic school education is highly sought after by catholics and noncatholics alike. it has always been my feeling that a catholic education should be given first to catholic children and then if openings remained, to noncatholics (because in my opinion, the motive of noncatholic parents seeking out a catholic school for their child is to get them a private school education at a deeply discounted rate).

i don't recall what it was you said that had me thinking you were a catholic basher, so i apologize. but they do abound on FR and they do love to come to a catholic thread, where catholics are discussing a problem amongst themselves, and i find that highly objectionable. Again, my apologies. : )