Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1

The Bushes and Condi Rice will not become publicly involved in a matter concerning a single girl - it would be "bad form".

They don't need to become publicly involved at this point. They can demonstrate an interest in the case to a select groups of individuals and those said individuals can do their duties. I know the POTUS cares deeply about the slave trafficking problem and don't doubt any of these three would be deeply moved by Natalee's disappearance.

As I said to the previous poster, I hope you are right and I am wrong.

461 posted on 06/17/2005 10:16:29 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)

462 posted on 06/17/2005 10:17:34 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)

"Somebody better drag Greta out of bed "

I'm glad to hear she's still on the island and hasn't been pulled. The 5th person has been questioned and may not actually be under arrest.

463 posted on 06/17/2005 10:17:57 AM PDT by Andy'smom

To: CitizenM; All

Could SGC stand for something other than a name? I'm seeing "SGC" on travel and cruise websites but can't find what SGC stands for.

464 posted on 06/17/2005 10:19:11 AM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")

There is a listing on Air Aruba for a "Steve Croes"...pilot.

465 posted on 06/17/2005 10:19:49 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))

Also Deputy Prime Minister Glenbert F. CROES -- Aruban Patriotic Party

466 posted on 06/17/2005 10:21:19 AM PDT by Swanks

No, that name doesn't ring bells. Seems it was a writer or media person most would have heard of...

I'll surf around....scientologists are a freaky bunch!

What is 'sometimers strikes again?'

467 posted on 06/17/2005 10:21:28 AM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")

Possibly . . . yes . . .

469 posted on 06/17/2005 10:22:31 AM PDT by theophilusscribe

470 posted on 06/17/2005 10:22:55 AM PDT by Andy'smom

Steven Greg Croes, 26, Kas Ariba

471 posted on 06/17/2005 10:23:24 AM PDT by theophilusscribe

What a story...how frightening and how wonderful that you arrived safely.

472 posted on 06/17/2005 10:24:14 AM PDT by sarasota

Yeah, but we don't even know how old this pilot is, nor do we know if it IS him...

473 posted on 06/17/2005 10:24:26 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))

To: Rippersnapper; demkicker; All

Did the Aruban governemnt request the FBI?

Did Natalee's parents request the FBI?

Is it standard procedure for the FBI to go to a foreign country where a US citizen turns up missing?

#1 Rippersnapper, google is our friend.

Miami FBI assists in missing-woman case

Posted on Tue, Jun. 14, 2005

FBI agents from the Miami office have been in Aruba during the probe into the fate of an Alabama high school graduate, but their role has been limited.

BY LUISA YANEZ

Highly-trained agents from Miami's FBI office have been in Aruba for two weeks, but are playing a limited role in the search for Natalee Holloway, the missing Alabama woman whose case has drawn international media attention.

That's because the agents from the top federal investigative agency have been invited on the Dutch Caribbean island only as observers. Local authorities are leading the investigation.

Up to now, the Aruba government has requested minimal FBI assistance, said Judy Orihuela, the FBI spokeswoman in Miami.

''We are there at the request of the Aruban government and we'll help in anyway they ask us,'' she said.

Six Miami-based agents are on the island along with a seventh agent based in Barbados. The team of agents, along with a supervisor, watched from behind a glass the questioning of the five men implicated in the 18-year-old's disappearence.

Aruba officials also asked the FBI to analyze a DNA sample taken from the backseat of a suspect's vehicle. The sample was flown to the FBI crime lab in Quantico, Va., but came back negative for blood.

Natalee's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, has publicly criticized the pace of the investigation.

Even if Holloway Twitty wanted the FBI more involved in the case, the Dutch government would have to approve.

''Aruba is a sovereign nation,'' Orihuela said of the island, an autonomous member of the Kingdom of the Netherlands where Dutch is the official language, but English is widely spoken.

Investigators have said they continue to pursue all leads and emphasize that no one is above the law in Aruba.

But Holloway's mother told the Associated Press Sunday she believes island authorities might be protecting the three young men believed to be the last to see her daughter on May 30.

''All three of those boys know what happened to her,'' Holloway Twitty told AP. ``They all know what they did with her that night.''

One of them -- a 17-year-old Dutch boy -- is the privileged son of a Justice Ministry official.

The teen and the Surinamese brothers said they dropped Natalee off at her hotel after they drank and danced at a local night spot and a ride to the beach. It was Natalee's last night in Aruba.

The brothers, Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Deepak Kalpoe, 21, told police that the three took Holloway to a lighthouse near Arisha Beach. There, the Dutch teen kissed and fondled Natalee in the back of the car.

The brothers said they returned Holloway to her hotel about 2 a.m. But security video from the hotel does not show her walking back into the Holiday Inn on Palm Beach, where she stayed during the five-day high school graduation trip, her mother said.

The trio pointed the finger at two hotel guards, who were also taken into custody. Holloway Twitty told the news agency she believes the security guards had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance. Their attorneys have appealed for their release.

Attorneys for all five men maintain their clients' innocence.

For now, the agents -- members of the extra-territorial squad that deals with events in the Caribbean and South America -- will continue in their role as observers. Among them: an expert in evidence processing, a crimes against children specialist and a victim/witness coordinator. ''It's really up to the Aruban government what they want us to do,'' Orihuela said.

474 posted on 06/17/2005 10:24:36 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

One would think, then, in such a case as this that the known crack houses would be searched first. As well as rounding up all that inhabit those places. Wonder if that was done?

Good question!

476 posted on 06/17/2005 10:24:40 AM PDT by Rippersnapper

To: theophilusscribe

CNN: Kalpoe warked at Cyberzone Internet Cafe. Confirmed by computer that was taken from home.

That was stated by one of his friends on one of the cable news shows.

477 posted on 06/17/2005 10:26:18 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

Someone on SM knows him:

DJTAYLOR wrote:
batmanCJ wrote:
DJTAYLOR wrote:
westcoastguy wrote:
They're reporting this S.G. (Steve Creows) as being in the bar business in the hotel zone?
oh my god this guy is my friend STEVE CROEWS
tell me more that you know of this please

How do you know this guy? Are you sure it is your friend?

the discription of him is pretty close but no i am not sure, they said he has a daughter kid of 2 years old wich steve my friend has, his last name is the same his age is the same i mean the island is small. my god i am with open mouth here

DJTaylor, would he have been the type that would have attended one of Lorenzo's "after-parties" that are out there away from town? He's not married, so maybe he was invited to it?

478 posted on 06/17/2005 10:26:49 AM PDT by Andy'smom

Sometimes its a good idea to "rush in like a bunch of cowboys."

479 posted on 06/17/2005 10:28:03 AM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")

He didn't recognize the picture through. Maybe more than one Steven Croes/Croews

480 posted on 06/17/2005 10:28:39 AM PDT by theophilusscribe

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