Posted on 06/15/2005 12:27:19 PM PDT by veronica
So they were in a dentist's office at the same time? Good grief.
So then he hatched a plot to somehow deprive her brain of oxygen for some minutes, leaving her in a PVS for 15 years, and finally prevailed through the courts, just so that he could now marry her?
Delusional.
Did she ever have a modern medical exam? What year?
Thank you. Nice try though!
I wish I knew a pathologist who could point to the effect of starvation and dehydration regarding brain weight. An independant pathologist who has no axe to grind, mind you. The other thread apparently is locked, and with good reason. Let's try and ignore the trolls.
Leaving Michael Jackson aside for the moment, the problem with Pinellas County is that from my readings (which were pretty extensive when the whole Schiavo affair hit 2-3 months ago), it's a pretty corrupt place in general. Judge Greer apparently is a big real estate crook, the Sheriff's office seems extremely corrupt, the nursing home situation is corrupt - the whole county stinks. I wouldn't have any confidence in anything that came out of Pinellas County even ASIDE from the Schiavo case.
The ME's office has been corrupt in the past. My point with this is that many people might simply accept any findings BECAUSE an ME says so - well the preceding ME had to resign because of changing her findings under pressure. It's actually very relevant because if it happened once, obviously it can happen again. The only way to forestall even the appearance of impropriety was to try to include other parties in the autopsy, particularly those of the opposition side. It might not have resolved anything, but then again - neither did this.
The list of doctors that actually examined her is rather short. There were a few who were allowed to observe her but not truly examine.
There were 3 doctors for Schiavo, Bambadikis was one. Ronald Cranford and I can't remember the 3rd.
For the Schindlers was Maxwell and Hammesfahr.
For the State of Florida, just before her dehydration, was Dr Cheshire but he was only allowed to look, not touch her. On page 6, he calls it a 90 minute visit.
This list doesn't include the emergency room doctors etc.
It certainly would have been interesting if Terri's parents had taken custody and then she choked to death because they were trying to feed her. They did insist she could swallow, so it is quite possible that might have happened.
"I wish I knew a pathologist who could point to the effect of starvation and dehydration regarding brain weight. An independant pathologist who has no axe to grind, mind you."
With all due respect. The issue is not her brain's weight, per se, the issue is it's function or lack thereof.
Maybe it did weigh less due to dehydration, but I doubt HALF of what it did prior. It was not in a freeze dryer.
"247 images according to the autopsy report.
I stand corrected."
More...pg 28 of the autopsy... 72 external photographs, 116 internal photographs, "A radiologic survey of her entire body...using a fluoroscopic c-arm (x-ray) with 58 pre-autopsy images captured."
I need to go back and look again, but it appears the nortorious "bone doc" made an assumption, one that turned out to be false and he relied on somebody elses "guess" and words rather than actual proof when he referred to the bone trauma. ;-)
This autopsy resolved much, except in those with a conspiratorial mindset.
Can't have that; it conflicts with the Culture of LifeTM. (rolls eyes)
Two weeks without fluids will result in only the loss of a few grams of brain weight. No one loses half their brain mass in 2 weeks because of dehydration.
Actually it appears that the bone scan doc was confused or wreckless. Pg 28 of the autopsy report addresses this issue in some detail.
In short, the doc when with the "trauma" words used by someone else and derived from the request form not the the actual findings of the doc. Without slamming him, the coroner indicates the doc made observations without knowledge of the patient...implying he had an incomplete picture. She did indeed have the HO bone disease as suspected by her doctors and which gave rise to the bone scan.
Note too that they did a complete x-ray/bone-scan of the entire body before commencing the autopsy.
That's simply not true, sinkspur, that's just your own bias talking. If it really had accomplished anything it would be convincing to people who sided with Terri's parents. At least some of what he's saying might have some weight if there were another independent doctor, or someone who had sided with the Schindlers, to back it up. As it is, it's simply another report from another Pinellas County official, it is an absolutely meaningless document. No one's mind has been changed, nothing has been resolved.
Dr. Gambone, Terri's former doctors who resigned in 2003, said she had an obvious will to live. I suppose that wouldn't show up in the autopsy either.
Didn't George Felos come from Terri's room when she was dying and tell the public how peaceful she was? Well, if the dehydration was the worst the doctor had ever seen; that tells me George Felos lied to the public. What else has he lied about?
I was impressed with the straight forwardness of Dr. Thogmartin, and I believe I understood him to say they were open to any new evidence or something akin to that. I thought he left the door open for more investigation. Ironically, I was listening to the news on the radio, and heard one of the MSM reporters say 'that the medical examiner found the husband could not have caused her condition,' I didn't hear the doctor say that....did I miss it or did they make it up?
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