Posted on 06/10/2005 11:13:37 AM PDT by Always Right
BWHAHAHHAHA...
Has anyone tried to sell you tax a evasion kit via FReepmail?
"Pass" it to them .... hell ... I'll sell it to them and charge the 23% tax inclusive rate to boot.
You may just have identified a whole new industry.
To me the best reason that everybody pays. Right now close to half of Americans pay nothing for the privilege living in this country. With a NRST everybody pays. The more you consume the more you pay, how does that effect lower and middle income more than higher income people? It has always been my belief that richer people buy bigger houses, more expensive cars, higher priced clothes etc.
Not if you're required by law. Try NOT giving a receipt to the wrong person.
Right. But how would the politicians control things with the IT? They wouldn't. That's why the left hates it.
Has anyone tried to sell you tax a evasion kit via FReepmail?
More than once, LOL, more than once.
Are you really serious?
How about the redistribution of income and wealth for starters? Taking from one to give to another at point of a gun, if necessary, if the threat of imprisonment isn't enough to get you to comply, sounds pretty immoral to me.
Government can only do what has been delegated to it. We cannot delegate powers that aren't lawfully ours. If it's illegal for me or you to do it, it's out of the proper bounds of government to do.
Is that immoral enough?
Now see. There you go injecting facts and reason into a thread that started with a series of lies.
I misread what you wrote. Sorry.
That said, he still isn't necessarily wrong. Could be, but not necessarily.
Finally, we find an area of agreement.
Two years ago when they were concerned about an attack on DC that would decimate congress that were trying to figure ways to work around such an event. Your proposal is exactly what we proposed at discussion group.
Thank you for the laugh.
You made a statement. I asked for clarification and you chose only to sidestep the issue and make up a resume on yourself, guess about me, and try to slip out the back door.
Now this is really simple. What did you mean about useless billionaires and their heirs? It sounded like class envy. Was I wrong?
Okay, it's your turn to answer.
Point is, moron, that the greatly higher rate structure of the IT encourages evasion far more than the lower FairTax ratePoint is, moron, that one of the reasons the IT rate structure is greatly higher is that it factors in evasion and avoidance. If the FairTax rate factored in the level of evasion and avoidance that could be expected, it's rate would be greatly higher. Get it?
I think most of them know that as a lot of them are FROM the left.If anybody speaks hillbilly, could you please translate.
Always thot you sounded a bit criminal ...Doesn't anybody have a hillbilly dictionary? What does "thot" mean?
I know newgeezer well enough to know he was just looking for a debate on a Friday. The bible says the government will tax you and once they have their tax money, it's theirs. Jesus even implied that it was theirs before they taxed you. The bible also says that God establishes governments as His ministers for your good. There is nothing in the world immoral about their taxing you and redistributing the wealth.
Government can only do what has been delegated to it. We cannot delegate powers that aren't lawfully ours. If it's illegal for me or you to do it, it's out of the proper bounds of government to do.
This is a myth propegated by armchair constitutionwonks. God gives governments their authority. The constitution is a nice set of guidelines subject to the interpretation of lawyers.
Is that immoral enough?
Not remotely.
Suprised he cut something out of context? That's his #1 tactic.
THe context was that eliminating tax costs would allow business to cut costs and KEEP THE SAME PROFIT MARGIN... and that if a competitive business fails to eliminate the costs from prices, their competitor will - because the competitor can cut its prices to increase market share WHILE KEEPING THE SAME PROFIT MARGIN.
The fair tax rate presumes the same level of evasion as the income tax...even though there is a strong argument that evasion will reduce.
BTW, you oppose the fair tax today because the rate is too low????!!!
Wouldn't it be good if gov't was forced to spend less?
And before, you said the same rate being visibly applied to everyone would not prevent the rate from being increased easily...
So which is it today? Rate too high or too low? Rate can't change easily or it can?
The fair tax rate presumes the same level of evasion as the income taxYou say that, but it's flat out not true.
The whole thing was ...It's increased market share WHILE KEEPING THE SAME PROFIT MARGIN that leads to growing profits...unPrincipled from #485:
"It's increased market share that leads to growing profits."Don't see anything there that says "keeping the same profit margin."
This is why you're discounted - you purposefully take things out of context in order to mislead.
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