Posted on 05/29/2005 11:43:58 PM PDT by John Filson
As someone else here said, they were combat engineer or tank recovery variants of the M60 that had been adapted. There are no M48-based vehicles in service any more that I am aware of, except for a few scattered Guard units (not in Texas).
IIRC, there was no recovered .50 BMG brass inside the compound from the defenders' positions, and there were no reports of .50 BMG strikes. However, there was plenty of .50BMG fire coming from the FBI/ATF side...
Wow, the thought police come a-crawlin' pretty fast when one boob starts spreading lies about someone, don't it?
For the last time--learn to read in context.
Hell, it might be nothing more than a professional courtesy. I do know no President has ever fully submitted to the "War Powers Act," but that seems to be an intra-branch battle they don't feel a need to fight. Usually they'll perform just enough of it's requirements to make the Congress look like they're trying to usurp Executive authority if they go after him in the Supreme Court, near as I can tell.
You really need two people to carry it around.The AP
round would completely go through a V8 auto engine.
The tracers stayed lit out to about 2000 meters.
Me: No military force is allowed in the United States that is not subject to the President of the United States.
You: When not called into federal service, the Militia still exist, and they are not under Presidential command at those times.
Now maybe in the Carolinas those two concepts are considered mutually exclusive: but they ain't anywhere else.
Are you trying to tell me the Constitution allows the Militias to refuse a call up from the President?
What you label as a "distinction without difference" is in fact a distinction specified by the Constitution itself.
By all means, distinguish away, but you're gonna feel lilke a real ass when you figure out you're hunting rabbit during duck season.
Now if you wanted to discuss the fact that our modern day application of this Constitutional provision has strayed from the original intention of the Framers of the Constitution, and that the National Guard of today is not the same thing as the Militia referred to in the Constitution, then we might have something to talk about.
This is the part you don't get. The President exerts his authority, they have to come, whether they're the Guard, or peasants with pitchforks. What the hell do you think "well regulated" means?
Amen to that. I'll go one more: The Government has 'em? Then I'm gonna need one.
Frankly, I have no more interest in the third degree from people on this thread. This bizarre fixation on one person's views of Second Amendment rights--when I've never stated them--is strangely fascinating, but ultimately extremely silly. Think what you want, I really don't care, though you obviously do.
I thought this said "Tourists"
So that's why there is a tourist season.
Hey! Quit posting gun porn on this site!
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>>Hell, it might be nothing more than a professional courtesy.<<
I've got a hunch that one of our State legislators reminded the Governor just what the rules were and how he needs to show more than a professional courtesy to the State citzens. Somewhere there must be a Nevada State law about when and how it is permissible and when it's not.
A year ago, at Attorney General John Ashcrofts initiative, Congress reduced the period of record keeping from 90 days to 24 hours. Thats the policy thats in effect today.
IIRC, 24 hours was the original requirement of the Brady Bull. The 90 day business was an arbirtary change made by Janet Reno and the the other Justice Department marxists of the Clinton era.
There isn't a more important issue before us today. If you don't care, we want to know, and we'll remember that you don't.
If you're interested in learning to care, we're here to help. We'd like to help because we believe that only by maintaining our rights may we have any hope of never needing to reacquire them by force.
I'm not trying to be a pain, fella. But sofar as I know, all Courts have consistently ruled that the "Supremacy Clause" is inviolate. Where State and Federal Constitutions conflict, the State MUST give way. Now I'm not saying your State doesn't have language that makes the President ask permission, but if it does you can rest assured it is not enforceable.
If the situation exists as you suspect, it would be a DIRECT challenge to the principle of Federalism.
Most ijits can't hit anything over 20 feet, much less 5,280. Let those who can, do, and those who whine, stay in the kennel.
Hey, that'd be a great way to deer hunt! Prep with mortars first.
Seriously, I think the 2nd Amendment refers to individual arms rather than area or crew served weapons.
But use of the word arms is certainly telling because it takes note that firearms were and still are an evolving technology. Heck when the 2nd was codified the technology had already evolved from the Brown Bess smooth bore to the use of rifled barrels for greater accuracy and greater range.
That's why it does not specify the muzzle loading flintlock rifle or pistol. That's why my AR-15 is covered today and my personal hand Phaser will be covered tomorrow.
Since you put it so cordially, as opposed to some of these weirdly-fixated people on the thread, I will say that several members of my immmediate family are card-carrying NRA members; I read almost every issue of the magazine when I'm over their houses; I believe that anyone who claims the Second Amendment speaks to "militia" rights can't seem to grasp that all of the other amendments apply to individual rights, so why would that one only apply to keeping a standing army armed; and my support for the Second Amendment is equal to that of the First, namely that it applies to any LEGAL U.S. citizen who wishes to exercise the rights almost without exception. Those who want to call me a troll for those last three words can piss up a rope because they're just looking for a fight.
That they do, is fascinating to me because the Constitution contains a State "supremecy clause" The Bill of rights, specifically the 10th amendment. Also the people supreme over the Federal Government.
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