[FormerLib]

"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved--the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"

I have to laugh out loud when I hear one of these muttonheads attempt to use this. Yes, the cross can be described as "an engine of grief," it was an execution device whereby the victim was tortured to death.

[anniegetyourgun]

True enough, but it will always be an offense to those who are perishing.