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Christian Mission to the Top:Evangelicals take on the secular elite:the Ivy League
THE NEW YORK TIMES ^ | May 22,2005 | LAURIE GOODSTEIN and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 05/23/2005 12:18:31 AM PDT by Cincinna

Now a few affluent evangelicals are directing their attention and money at some of the tallest citadels of the secular elite: Ivy League universities. Three years ago a group of evangelical Ivy League alumni formed the Christian Union, an organization intended to "reclaim the Ivy League for Christ," according to its fund-raising materials, and to "shape the hearts and minds of many thousands who graduate from these schools and who become the elites in other American cultural institutions."

The Christian Union has bought and maintains new evangelical student centers at Brown, Princeton and Cornell, and has plans to establish a center on every Ivy League campus. In April, 450 students, alumni and supporters met in Princeton for an "Ivy League Congress on Faith and Action." A keynote speaker was Charles W. Colson, the born-again Watergate felon turned evangelical thinker.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bornagain; brownu; cary; charlescolson; christian; christianstudents; christianunion; cornell; evangelicals; highereducation; ivyleague; princeton
Front page story in Sunday's NYTimes. Just in ther nick of time. An extraordinary article about the expanding role of Christians in the economic and cultural elite and their instutions, and their increasing financial strength and power in America. A MUST READ!
1 posted on 05/23/2005 12:18:31 AM PDT by Cincinna
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To: Cincinna

Good luck to these folks!


2 posted on 05/23/2005 12:31:08 AM PDT by jocon307 (Legal immigrant Irish grandmother rolls in grave, yet again.)
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To: Cincinna

Just read the whole piece. Amazingly un-insulting. The Times must be trying to diversify and reach out.

Thanks for posting this, I certainly didn't know that evangelicals were 25% of the population, I think Roman Catholics are another 20% or so. Gives one hope. The article also gives one hope for the young people of today.


3 posted on 05/23/2005 12:43:16 AM PDT by jocon307 (Legal immigrant Irish grandmother rolls in grave, yet again.)
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To: jocon307
That 25% Evangelical Christians is probable even more. The dirty little secret is that this country has always been a Judeo Christian nation with the emphasis on Christian.
4 posted on 05/23/2005 2:11:23 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Cincinna
Contrary to the media reports, Christianity is the fastest growing faith on earth.

Moreover, evangelical Christianity is the most rapidly growing faith in the United States.

5 posted on 05/23/2005 3:56:51 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Lots of people like the term "Liberal" Christianity to define anyone to the left of them, which includes a lot of true followers of Christ. I like the term Secular Christians, who are Christians in name only and deny the deity of Jesus, reject the Bible, and give aid and comfort to the enemy (moral relativism). Secular Christians are the followers of a dying church while all the rest are growing, both Protestant and Catholic.


6 posted on 05/23/2005 4:16:15 AM PDT by KeyWest
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To: Cincinna

Many of these ivy league schools were started and "still are" (at least on paper) as Christian schools...


7 posted on 05/23/2005 5:21:40 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: mariabush
It all depends on how you define "Christian."

Barna uses several methods. "Self-definers," who answer on a Census form, "Christian," "Moslem," "Jewish," "Hindu," etc. are 93%.

If you ask, "Do you attend church regularly?" the number drops to 50%.

If you ask, "Did you attend church LAST WEEK?" the number is about 25%.

Those who tithe in any denomination are an even smaller percentage.

8 posted on 05/23/2005 6:05:39 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS

I agree when you break the numbers down this way.


9 posted on 05/23/2005 6:44:33 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Cincinna

There's something big stirring below the surface if the NYT is now taking notice!


10 posted on 05/23/2005 7:17:41 AM PDT by Gritty ("We have no operative Constitution anymore; the federal government defines its own powers-J Sobran)
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To: mariabush
If you want another tidbit, a grad student and I about 10 years ago applied income #s to the main denonminations, then asked, "What would happen if all Christians tithed" based on those incomes?

The lower-bound # of Christians yielded 125% of ALL federal, state, and local welfare $$; the upper-bound number was 225% of ALL federal, state, and local $$$.

For those who say private charity could not deal with poverty, I say BS: if Christians tithed, we could run all the churches AND handle all the "po."

11 posted on 05/23/2005 10:23:44 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS
I totally agree. Another benefit from obeying God by tithing is that is that you are financially blessed. Not to say that there might not be some hard times, but faithfulness to the Lord always pays off.
12 posted on 05/23/2005 10:28:39 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: mariabush

You got it. It is really hard, too, some times when it's "pay this bill, or tithe." I know better, and even then, from time to time, am not faithful.


13 posted on 05/23/2005 10:49:46 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: SkyPilot

"Moreover, evangelical Christianity is the most rapidly growing faith in the United States"

If you actually read the entire article, you will see that the percentage of Evangelicals in the US population has remained constant, at a steady at 25% for decades. What has changed is the social class, with Evangelicals moving into the more highly educated and highly paid elite schools and professions. The links in the article have demographic statistics.


14 posted on 05/23/2005 3:05:35 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: LS

Most surveys use the following questions:

Religion....
If you state Christian, the follow-up question is "do you consider yourself an Evangelical or "born again " Christian?"


15 posted on 05/23/2005 3:08:08 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Gritty

I agree that the NYTimes has regrouped.

This article is part of their series "class matters" exploring social class in America.

This is an excellent article, well researched and written, from an objective non-judgemental point of view.May be a first for the NYT, but kudos to them anyway.

I think they realize this is a very powerful phenomenon that has reached the halls of educational and financial power in America.


16 posted on 05/23/2005 3:12:30 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Cincinna

Great article!

Does anyone know if this group is on other campuses? Balance is surely needed.

As an alumna I have hesitated giving money to my school. Now I know just where to write that check.

Has anyone seen anything by David Horowitz on this topic? He is usually excellent on this type of academic issues.


17 posted on 05/23/2005 4:33:03 PM PDT by PJBlogger (BEWARE :: HILLARY and her HINO want to take back YOUR COUNTRY !)
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To: Cincinna

Still too vague, as Barna shows. The real questions must deal with actual ACTIONS in a set time frame, like tithing, or church attendence over the past week/two weeks etc.


18 posted on 05/23/2005 5:05:31 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS

Are you doubting the NYTimes article stating that Evangelicals are a changing demographic, moving into the highly educated, high income earners with increased power in Ivy League institutions and the corridors of financial and political power?

What is your point?

The groups written about are Evangelicals, organizing in elite institutions like Wall Street and Ivy League Universities; raising tons of money and interest. What is your problem with this?


19 posted on 05/23/2005 5:15:55 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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