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Lawmakers vote to boost their pensions (Texas Tax Alert)
Star Telegram ^ | May. 17, 2005 | Jay Root

Posted on 05/17/2005 8:24:52 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud

No record vote was taken when the House approved a bill that would automatically boost the already generous retirement benefits of the "elected class" -- the name legislators call themselves and statewide elected officials, including the governor.

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"We all work very hard, and we're underpaid. We're all losing money that we could earn in our own professions, and I think it's very appropriate," said Hartnett, a lawyer. "We work extremely hard for basically food-stamp pay."

But critics questioned the need for the increase in pensions.

"When you're talking about the budget itself increasing somewhere between 14 and 20 percent ... is it appropriate to then go to the taxpayer and ask for even more generous retirement benefits than they're already getting?" asked Michael Sullivan, a vice president at the conservative Texas Public Policy Foundation.

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1 posted on 05/17/2005 8:24:54 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: SwinneySwitch; politicalwit; Paleo Conservative; TXLady; Texan; Txslady; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

This will tick ya off PING


2 posted on 05/17/2005 8:26:33 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud (REMEMBER - If you send it, they'll spend it!)
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

Houston/Texas PING

I see that now that they are done with things like the school cheerleader bill they can tackle the REAL BIG issues that everyone wanted them to get to.


3 posted on 05/17/2005 8:28:25 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Looks like Dubya beat you to it this time.

Posted on 05/17/2005 9:07:57 AM CDT by Dubya

Lawmakers vote to boost their pensions (TEXAS)

4 posted on 05/17/2005 8:28:37 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Give Byrd the Byrd option now.)
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To: ArmyBratproud
"We all work very hard, and we're underpaid. We're all losing money that we could earn in our own professions, and I think it's very appropriate," said Hartnett, a lawyer. "We work extremely hard for basically food-stamp pay."

Uhh,.... so don't run for the job.

5 posted on 05/17/2005 8:30:55 AM PDT by The_Victor (Doh!... stupid tagline)
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To: ArmyBratproud
"We work extremely hard for basically food-stamp pay."

Except when you realize some of the gigs they get out of it (including lobbying after they serve).

Why not include the cost of their campaigns if the gig pays so little?

Obviously if they want to serve the people of their state and don't mind low pay, they could get jobs as school teachers but they would rather make a change other ways.

My jobs have never paid me a pension. The leg. needs to quit their bitchin'.

6 posted on 05/17/2005 8:31:47 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: The_Victor

How much hard working did they do when the Chicken D's fled to state to avoid voting on redistricting?


7 posted on 05/17/2005 8:32:40 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: ArmyBratproud

So wait, these guys, who through their campaigns ASKED us to give them these legislative jobs are now complaining? They can quit at any time. If they were doing the jobs because they cared they'd be happy as hell. I hope these guys who voted for it get voted out.


8 posted on 05/17/2005 8:38:20 AM PDT by huszar02
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To: weegee

don't forget the PACs they all have.


9 posted on 05/17/2005 8:38:35 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud (REMEMBER - If you send it, they'll spend it!)
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To: huszar02

LAST CHANCE TO CALL REPS AND SENATORS!!!!!!! STOP THE PAYROLL TAX!!!

HERE IS THE LIST FOR THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE WHERE HB 3 IS IN THE JOINT HACKING OUT PHASE! This is the bill that involves the Payroll Tax (Backdoor income tax)

CALL THESE MEMBERS AND DEMAND THEY REMOVE THE PAY ROLL TAX COMPLETELY FROM THE BILL!

Senate Members-
Find their numbers in the directory
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/Senate/Members.htm

Ogden ( this may be someone who will notice the pressure)
Zaffarini
Staples (Staples has taken notice of pressure from the voters before. So he needs some phone calls)
Troy Frazier
Brimer (Sen. Brimer is another that should be pressured.

House Members
Find their numbers in the directory
http://www.house.state.tx.us/members/welcome.htm


Chisum

Geren (Rep Geren is a business man in the Fort Worth area...so he may be one that folks should call and ask to have a pay roll tax removed.)
http://www.house.state.tx.us/members/dist99/geren.htm

Keffer

Otto

Swinford

IT IS ALSO TIME TO START CONTACTING THE GOVERNOR AND TELL HIM THAT HE NEEDS TO VETO ANY BILL THAT HAS A PAYROLL TAX OR PAYROLL TAX OPTION!

REMIND HIM THAT HE SAID HE WOULD VETO A JOB KILLER.

RECENT STUDIES SHOW THAT A PAYROLL TAX WILL COST THOUSANDS IN JOB GROWTH!




10 posted on 05/17/2005 8:39:01 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud (REMEMBER - If you send it, they'll spend it!)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Rats, Pubbies, it doesn't matter. They are all criminals in suits. They can't live within their means, yet they demand to pick even more out of our pockets for their gold-plated retirement systems.

Remember, if ANY critter wanted to go on the record against this it could have asked for a roll-call vote. As far as I'm concerned, voice votes are unanimous.

Like other posters have said, if the economic "burden" is too hard for them, they can give up their seat and get a real job.

11 posted on 05/17/2005 8:39:11 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: huszar02
No record vote was taken

This just means it will take more research.

12 posted on 05/17/2005 8:42:44 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: zeugma

What actually is the salary of a Representative? Isn't it an act of service? The problem is that members of Congress treat it as if it were their careers instead of just serving a few terms and then going back to their "Careers" where they would make more than a "food stamp salary".


13 posted on 05/17/2005 8:44:52 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (Catholic school survivor and proud of it.)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Be it that rank and file members make $158,100 per year that is some big time 'food-stamp pay'. Almost makes me wish *I* could get 'food-stamp pay'.

Dear Congress,
STFU!
Regards,
MAU


14 posted on 05/17/2005 9:21:58 AM PDT by Machines Are Us
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To: brooklyn dave
What actually is the salary of a Representative?

Doesn't matter what it is IMO. IF they actually did their job, they'd only be in session a few months every two years. They should be billed for every single day they are in "special session" because it is a measure of their own failure to do their job that they are there.

15 posted on 05/17/2005 9:38:08 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: brooklyn dave

Keep in mind...that there are administrative funds that their offices get. So yeah...they get their part time pay....but they make it up elsewhere.

And then the PACs that most of them have.

AND...most of them have a ton of cash to begin with.

The thing is....THEY KNOW ITS A SERVICE GIG.

I wish I could get 30000 plus a year retire pay....AFTER ONLY 12 YEARS!!!!!

Especially since they only meet half of those years.


16 posted on 05/17/2005 7:01:54 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (REMEMBER - If you send it, they'll spend it!)
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