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In 1941 Charles Portal of the British Air Staff advocated that entire cities and towns should be bombed. Portal claimed that this would quickly bring about the collapse of civilian morale in Germany. Air Marshall Arthur Harris agreed and when he became head of RAF Bomber Command in February 1942, he introduced a policy of area bombing (known in Germany as terror bombing) where entire cities and towns were targeted.

One tactic used by the Royal Air Force and the United States Army Air Force was the creation of firestorms. This was achieved by dropping incendiary bombs, filled with highly combustible chemicals such as magnesium, phosphorus or petroleum jelly (napalm), in clusters over a specific target. After the area caught fire, the air above the bombed area, become extremely hot and rose rapidly. Cold air then rushed in at ground level from the outside and people were sucked into the fire.

In 1945, Arthur Harris decided to create a firestorm in the medieval city of Dresden. He considered it a good target as it had not been attacked during the war and was virtually undefended by anti-aircraft guns. The population of the city was now far greater than the normal 650,000 due to the large numbers of refugees fleeing from the advancing Red Army.

On the 13th February 1945, 773 Avro Lancasters bombed Dresden. During the next two days the USAAF sent over 527 heavy bombers to follow up the RAF attack. Dresden was nearly totally destroyed. As a result of the firestorm it was afterwards impossible to count the number of victims. Recent research suggest that 35,000 were killed but some German sources have argued that it was over 100,000.


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What we did to dresden and other german cities, was horrific and absolutely necessary to winning the war against nazism. Innocents died.

That is the true nature of war.

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I also support the historic decision to the nuclear bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki. Anything to win the war. War by it's very definition is not a 'moral' proposition.

Only fools would believe otherwise, no matter whose administration they support or work for.

The idea of panties on a few 'innocent's' heads being a war crime is liberal feel-good bulhockey. The picture is a flat car load of dead german civilians, burned beyond recognition. Many MANY flat cars were piled with bodies in dresden. In hiroshima, the nuclear firestorm incinerated much of the carnage... so there are no photos of flatcars piled with bodies, as far as I know.

War is hell.

Panties on the head is NOT an atrocity.

81 posted on 05/04/2005 3:33:35 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (The Chinese and Saudis are our friends and allies!)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

"Anything to win the war. War by it's very definition is not a 'moral' proposition.

Only fools would believe otherwise, no matter whose administration they support or work for."

We can only hope you never have anything to do with any military decision in any capacity. What these degenerate felons did at this prison had NOTHING to do with winning the war. It had to do with their inability to control inner perversity when we most needed them to be restrained. They have stained the military. You keep insisting they just put some panties on some people's heads; read the charges, ALL of them. Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light served no military purpose, other then to enable these guards to get their kicks. They were US soldiers, not animals, and they had an obligation to follow military rules of engagement. The people they had imprisoned were NOT all terrorists; undoubtedly many were, but a good amount were people rounded up who it turns out were not involved in the insurgency. If we allow our soldiers to disobey any order they wish, because *war is hell* and "anything goes* there will be no disciple; there will only be chaos.

For you, anything goes because to you; "War is not a moral proposition". If that were truly the case, then there could never be a justification for war.


90 posted on 05/04/2005 7:20:33 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman
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