Posted on 05/01/2005 10:00:15 AM PDT by TapTheSource
Might also want to read/check out the following links by the same author:
Is The AIDS Virus A Science Fiction?: Immunosuppressive Behavior, Not HIV, May Be the Cause of AIDS
Policy Review (Hoover Institution), 1990
http://www.duesberg.com/about/pdpolicy.html
Peter Duesberg's website:
http://www.duesberg.com/about/index.html
Duesberg has been bunked, debunked and punk'd more times than John Kerry. Why are you hyping this lunatic's junk science 10-20 years on...Geesh.
Here is part 1 of the audio presentation. This part goes into the recent and dismal history behind what led to blaming AIDS on the wrong cause:
http://www.attacreport.com/ar_audio/ref_aids_video_1.htm
That's because I don't consider it junk science, of course.
Duesberg has been bunked, debunked and punk'd more times than John Kerry. Why are you hyping this lunatic's junk science 10-20 years on...Geesh.Probably because it makes sense, and because the HIV lobby, like the "Global Warming" true believers, would rather attack sources than argue facts.
-Eric
I suggest you read the Policy Review Artice I posted above and then click the link to Duesberg's website for more up to date information. Having said that, the Policy Review article summarizes their basic hypothesis...which was crushed by the Virus Hunters and the Public Health fanatics from the word go...
I've read some of Duesberg's work when it came out in the 90s. There are many anomolies in AIDS research, true. And it has become so heavily politicized, with an enormous economic stake of the AIDS proprietors in keeping it going, that you can't really trust the scientists who work in this area.
Is AIDS caused by the HIV virus? I'm really not certain. But I didn't find Duesberg's alternate theories entirely persuasive. Although he is probably correct in arguing that gay lifestyles, illicit drugs, and AIDS drug cocktails have made things worse.
AIDS in Africa is wildly exaggerated. The spread of the condom culture has only made things worse. AIDS in America is basically a protected epidemic, where the medical and political authorities do more to help spread it than control it. I would believe almost any alternate theory to this sort of craziness, but I don't think Duesberg entirely makes his case.
At least you are keeping an open mind, which is more than I can say for some on this thread! BTW, did you read Ellison and Duesberg's book...I found it VERY convincing.
Thanks Eric, this is national/international debate (read: fight) that still needs to happen no matter how hard the Public Health Movement tries to suppress it.
Indeed, Duesberg was even offered a bribe by Public Health officials to keep his mouth shut about the real cause of AIDS (link below):
Thought you might find this interesting--TTS
I thought this was a valid hypothesis about 15 years ago, but to cling to it in the face of current evidence is to deny the obvious. We have effective drugs to treat HIV now and when you knock peoples viral load back down to barely detectable levels their T-cells replenish themselves and they stop dying of AIDS.
Okay , , , what is "the real cause of AIDS"?
[And no I'm not going to take the time to go to this guy's web site so please just tell me. Thanks! 8^)]
1. In the 90's a report came out (I don't have the link) that about half of the US military in Germany were HIV+, why haven't we heard more about this IF they are dropping dead?
2. AIDS was FIRST mentioned in one of Beverly Sills' books (the opera singer) - she said she saw gay men dying of a strange disease, this was back in the 50's or 60's. Why hasn't anyone else picked up on this?
You can read a fairly abbreviated version of what causes AIDS in the following Policy Review article. If this causes you to want to learn more, visit Duesberg's website above:
http://www.duesberg.com/about/pdpolicy.html
Because they are NOT DROPPING DEAD...nor will they, because AIDS is NOT infectious.
"The only place reported AIDS cases come anywhere near the projections is in Africa. But this may be explained by physician Felix Konotey-Ahulu of Ghanda, who after touring Africa in search of AIDS wrote a scathing editorial for the Lancet in 1987. African AIDS statistics are purposely inflated because "Where there was 'AIDS' there was money," Konotey-Ahulu reported, "a brand-new clinic, a new Mercedes parked outside, high-paying jobs. ... A leading African physician warned us 'You will never get these doctors to tell you the truth. When they get sent to these AIDS conferences around the world, the per diem they receive is equal to what they can earn in a whole year at home.' "
http://www.ncc-1776.com/tle1995/le951103.html
BEHAVIOR causes the spread of AIDS; the actual vehicle is immaterial.
Don't do the behavior, don't get AIDS!
Here's another "idiots guide" to the Duesberg/Ellison (not to mention thousands of other top scientists) hypothesis:
http://www.attacreport.com/ar_archives/art_na_aids.htm
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