Posted on 04/03/2005 4:15:09 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I wasn't on Free Republic when Karen Quinlan was in the news so I can't answer that. Maybe laws do need to be changed, but more importantly, current laws need to be followed. I work for lawyers and they agree Michael should have been removed as guardian when he admitted to openly living with another woman and having children with her. To me, that's the bottom line and had that been done as required by law, Terri would probably still be alive.
We are willing to discuss and debate without being labeled Nazis.
I would have been one of the 70%. The reason is that the phrase " Persistent Vegetative State " was always used in describing her condition, and was used in the often quoted poll.
When the video her parents took of her, was finally shown on TV, ( in violation of a court order, I believe. ) I instantly realized that I had been duped. What we have here is nothing short of a conspiracy to commit murder. A killing for convenience.
My " Advance Directive ( Living Will ) " on file at the VA hospital will be cancelled at my next visit.
Thanks for the ping "BTTT"!
They have a paralyzing fear of having their noble reputations tainted.
No, we have a paralyzing fear that Newt's victory of '94 and the subsequent increases we've enjoyed in the Congress have been destroyed by the bible thumpers...present company hopefully excepted.
A huge part of the republican party is the religious wing with very strong convictions.
The passion and emotion displayed here recently are evidence of those convictions.
If our party can not take serious debate among us then we might as well drink Koolaid.
My thoughts are that the Republican's will hold together not despite our heated debates but because we have the flexibility and strength to allow them.
As usual thanks for the *PING* Pokey78
No one was. It was in 1976. Karen Ann Quinlan was in a coma and was on a respirator. I believe her mother AND the hospital petitioned the court to allow the respirator to be turned off and they did not want to face murder charges. At no time was nutrition and hydration deprivation mentioned. She lived for 9 years after her respirator was removed, never regaining consciousness.
At the time, many expressed their desire not to be in the same position. And probably would again today if they saw it on the news.
But, the case was NOTHING like Terri's, in that she was not conscious and starvation/dehydration was not considered.
Exactly. Good post!
I know about the case - I just meant we didn't have the same communications (internet) in 1976 and if we had, things probably would have been like Terri's case. Starving and dehydrating a person can never be right.
If by "heat" you mean hatred, bigotry and ad hominem attacks, we did. We welcome anyone to discuss this..however, for our own "safety" we've been relegated to the smokey back room. ;^)
A huge part of the republican party is the religious wing with very strong convictions.
Not that "huge" IMO. I'm describing the voter who can't have a simple conversation without mentioning "god". Those IMO are the most dangerous to what should be the number one priority...getting consevative judges appointed.
The passion and emotion displayed here recently are evidence of those convictions.
You misspelled hatred and bigotry, IMO.
If our party can not take serious debate among us then we might as well drink Koolaid.
Calling a fellow Republican a Nazi and Pro-death, etc., is not serious debate, IMO.
My thoughts are that the Republican's will hold together not despite our heated debates but because we have the flexibility and strength to allow them.
...obviously not here in FreeRepublic forum however.
Agreed.
So let's call it even and get on with it.
Hey fine by me, but it doesn't sound like the pity party is over for some.
That's like saying all businessmen are corrupt, etc.
You left the GOP? Okay, then.
See ya! And I wouldn't want to be ya.
If starving and dehydration had come into it, yes, it probably would have been the same. But she obviously continued to have food and water for those 9 additional years.
Why no, in fact they aren't.
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