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Interesting post, and I am now reading through...

The fall in the Garden was due to man (and woman)'s ingestion of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Having eaten of that fruit meant that man was supposed to know the difference between good and evil. But when we are not in true communion with Him, the One Who Knows the real difference...we cannot presume to know the answer in all things unless we go to Him. Even then we are subject to our own musings and muddying of the waters. The world is too much with us, and we often err in discernment when we listen to others and not to Him.

CV: **Today, all humans are born physically with bodily life in the womb, genetically inheriting the same nature as original man,...dead in the spirit and condemned in that death.

CV: **Upon birth from the body, God immediately grants souls life upon the man. At his point of our lives we are body and soul. **

I believe God breathes spirit/life into babies in the womb. However, He does not breathe His Spirit (the Holy Spirit) into anyone until that person requests it by asking Jesus to become their Saviour.

CV: **Upon faith alone in Christ alone, God is free in His holiness (i.e. Hie perfect justice and perfect righteousness, to once again regenerate a spirit life in that man who has faith.)

CV:**Whatever God ordains only He may remove. Where He has ordained a spirit life, it is returned to Him by His plan.**

God gives us free will and free choice. He allowed the Schindlers and the Schiavos to fight over Terri Schiavo's state of life. He has a permissive will and a perfect will. I believe that inappropriately placing feeding tubes can interfere with His perfect will.

CV: **Man might confuse the issue by associating the flesh or body, with the entirely of man, but this fails to address a multitude of experience, testimony, and simply life of soul and spirit. **

Who is to say that the spirit of Terri was not locked inside the infirm body, begging to be released? Begging to be let go? That which remained, remained to beg her parents to leg her go, not to hold on. But she couldn't express this, so her *spirit* (if indeed it was) held on.

CV: **The Christian or believer today has a relationship with God, not held by other believers prior to the first Advent of Christ. Upon regeneration, each believer is now filled with the Holy Spirit, who makes his body a temple to God. That temple now may be indwelt by the Son as the Shekinah Glory. **

Only those who have accepted Christ as their Saviour have the Holy Spirit indwelling. Just because someone attends Church, or professes to be a Christian, does not make it so. Only God knows. Only God is the perfect Judge.

CV: **There is a reason why Terri didn't die in the body, prior to the efforts to starve her and it might not have been for any man to know why whe remained alive. I do hope she remained faithful to him, and even if she sinned, returned to Him in her soul and confessed those sins directly to Him through Christ prior to her first death, to further glorify God. I suspect she did, and now has been promoted by His will where her remaining here would have been good for nothingness, ...not that the starving of her by man was just, nor that man's intervention had anything to do with her relationship with God,...it didn't, rather no person dies without that death having been planned and known by God. Her death, I suspect served a prominent example to other persons as to the mechanics of death. It also may have served as a testing of our government and our nation to manifest our true spiritual condition.**

Eloquently stated. I can understand how it could be a concern that some believe that our nation has manifested its true spiritual condition, IF one believes that not feeding someone who cannot chew or swallow is appropriate.

However, I believe G-D judges far differently than we humans do. I do not believe that the Islamic faith is the same, or similar enough, to the belief in the Trinity.
It is also likely that we misinterpret His meanings, and His actions in our lives. We strive to avoid suffering, and yet that is the cup he provides to us in order that we might learn to better glorify Him.

I heard it over and over that it was wrong to murder Terri Schiavo in such a cruel and painful way. I disagree with the term murder, but must ask this: what death is completely and totally painless?