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City Man arrested outside Fla. hospice (College Prof Tasered after trying to bring Terri water)
Scranton Times-Tribune ^ | 3/30/2005 | Josh Brodesky

Posted on 03/30/2005 6:01:21 AM PST by Born Conservative

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To: Born Conservative

been telling you guys for years how screwed up pinellas county law enforcement and judicial system is.


121 posted on 03/30/2005 8:26:46 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("remember, from ashes you came, to ashes you will return.")
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To: doc30

"...To me, it seems the law was not manipulated to suite one person's aims, but it functioned as it was supposed to."

If you think the parents should have no say and the estranged husband should have complete power then you perhaps have an agenda too. You are strangely selective in what you view as "insensitive".


122 posted on 03/30/2005 8:27:30 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances. Human nature is dependably stagnant.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

All it takes is one call to the FDLE they can and will clean it up. They are the real McCoy in Fla. And now you see why they are so desperately needed and why locals will do anything to keep them out.


123 posted on 03/30/2005 8:30:37 AM PST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Just following orders, hum?


124 posted on 03/30/2005 8:41:54 AM PST by freepertoo
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To: goldstategop

I think our peaceful thread is being infiltrated again.


125 posted on 03/30/2005 8:43:18 AM PST by freepertoo
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To: Kokojmudd

No, they weren't wrong. In fact, that was the exact right thing to do, and that's the reason they did declare independance. They appealed and failed and declared independance. Are people declaring independance from America now?

And, after they declared independance, the fight was brought to them and they defended themselves.


126 posted on 03/30/2005 8:58:06 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: quack

Good point, however,didnt he appeal to the law makers at that time?

And he didn't rescue her so much as pointed out that they were already under the same condemnation.


127 posted on 03/30/2005 9:00:35 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Conservative_Rob

Amen, Rob. I was appalled when I read the statement from the college as well. Unbelievable.


128 posted on 03/30/2005 9:05:22 AM PST by Josephine
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

"No, they weren't wrong. In fact, that was the exact right thing to do, and that's the reason they did declare independance. They appealed and failed and declared independance. Are people declaring independance from America now?

And, after they declared independance, the fight was brought to them and they defended themselves."


I can't disagree with anything you wrote here. Now the Boston Tea Party occurred a couple years before the Declaration of Independence. You threw out Romans 13 to be provacative. Was the Boston Tea Party wrong? Nobody had declared independence yet.

My point is a lot of Christians over the years have invoked Romans 13 as an excuse to do nothing. Good thing our Christian Founding Fathers didn't do that.


129 posted on 03/30/2005 9:11:24 AM PST by Kokojmudd (Today's Liberal is Tomorrow's Prospective Flying Saucer Abductee)
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To: Kokojmudd
Acts 4:8-12

Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them: “Rulers and elders of the people! If we are being called to account today for an act of kindness shown to a cripple and are asked how he was healed, then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. He is ‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the capstone.’ Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”

Acts 4:18-20

Then they called them in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. But Peter and John replied, “Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God's sight to obey you rather than God. For we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard.”

James 2:14-16

What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, “Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it?

Indeed, what good is your Christian faith if you stand by and allow anyone to be starved to death! I commend all those who have been arrested - they have a faith that is shown in their deeds.

130 posted on 03/30/2005 9:14:25 AM PST by Conservative_Rob
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To: atomicpossum
That is the irony of the entire drama - He does NOT have such kind of power.

He might as well order the hospice painted purple and order the nurses there to wear pink underwear. If he did people would think he was crazy and ignore his order. - and yet when he orders a disabled woman starved to death ....

131 posted on 03/30/2005 9:16:20 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Kokojmudd
My point is a lot of Christians over the years have invoked Romans 13 as an excuse to do nothing. Good thing our Christian Founding Fathers didn't do that

The founding fathers did the right thing and likely knew Romans 13 by heart. They appealed. They changed the law. The laws in Florida obviously need changing in this area. That's one of the nice things about living in a democratic society, isn't it?

132 posted on 03/30/2005 9:17:01 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

They didn't change the law - they seceeded - exactly like several southern states attempted to do in 1861 - only the "revolution" attempted by the south in 1861 failed. History rewritten by the victors.


133 posted on 03/30/2005 9:21:27 AM PST by Conservative_Rob
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To: keysguy

This is what I call the "easy bust syndrome".
It's a lot harder to bust real criminals, drug dealers, thieves, murderers but his guy is "real easy" to get. You can ever call backup, use the taser, use the cuffs, it must be great fun for some of the easy busters.

It's a lot harder to take the guy aside and ease him back to safety. That takes "real" police work that obviously is not taught in Pasco or Pinellas counties."

95 posted on 03/30/2005 10:31:17 AM EST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)

That is the absolute truth! These "peace" officers should be ashamed of themselves.


134 posted on 03/30/2005 9:25:39 AM PST by millefleur (No KING but Jesus !)
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To: Conservative_Rob

They changed the laws they were under by seceeding and thats the whole just of the term declaration of independance.

Did Jesus ever break a law?


135 posted on 03/30/2005 9:31:31 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Good point, however,didnt he appeal to the law makers at that time?

Haven't we done the same?When the lawmakers went against Gods word,did he stop his ministry or healing?Remember,they told him to stop,called him a blasphemer,and charged him with inciting riots. And he didn't rescue her so much as pointed out that they were already under the same condemnation.

He rescued her from a mob willing to stone her to death and from eternity away from him.He told her to,"Go and sin no more".To the mob,"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."One led to the other,simply by not allowing the law to be used as a method of murder.

136 posted on 03/30/2005 9:34:58 AM PST by quack
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To: Conservative_Rob

let me point this out:

I don't have a problem with anyone going and taking water or whatever to Terri and getting arrested. You want to do that with your churchs name on your back, fine. but don't go saying Jesus told you to, or it's righteous, or that you are doing God's work....or whatever.

Jesus of Nazareth never, ever violated a law. Ever. In fact, He even stated he came to fulfill the law. Never did he break a law in performing a miracle. He never did. "Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." What does that mean if Caesar says "no water for Terri"?


137 posted on 03/30/2005 9:47:36 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: quack

re: the stoning:

Jesus didnt break any laws by pointing out they had sin. The people stoning her stoppped of their own volition. Jesus did not break any laws. He did not grab her and run away. He didnt put a shield over her. They stopped on their own, they didn't have to stop.


138 posted on 03/30/2005 9:54:04 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

So, if your interpretation of Romans 13 is correct, then Stalin and Mao starving/murdering 47 million people was doing the Lord's work.

The problem with the letters written to the Churches (which is what the New Testament is primarily made of) is that they are terribly contradictory.

It is my view that the Word of God is flawless. It is also my view that the Bible was actually written/translated by man. And we are terribly flawed.


139 posted on 03/30/2005 10:05:30 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Our legal system is in a PVS. Time to remove it from the public feeding trough.)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
I think that, given that their instructions are to prevent people from crossing the police barricade, preventing somebody from crossing the police barricade is probably "maintaining order".

But what's with the burglary charge? AFAIK, he never made it up to the building, but even if he had, it wouldn't be burgarly. Trespassing, yes. Perhaps breaking and entering, if the door or window was locked.

140 posted on 03/30/2005 10:27:02 AM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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