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'Anti-gay' students must keep quiet
WorldNetDaily ^ | March 29, 2005

Posted on 03/28/2005 10:27:13 PM PST by scripter

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To: scripter
The last time we were in the process, in order to adopt in our county we were encouraged to take a class on diversity training, which includes, gay, bisexual, homosexual, etc issues. It may be required now.

Money and time better spent elsewhere, on actually learning something of value.

Nationally, the average cost of a year of public schooling, K-12, in 2002 was over $7500. The average private tuition in 2003 for the same age group was about $4700.

Public education is NOT cost effective. Why should it be? Like all socialist programs it has no competition for taxpayer monies and therefore has little incentive to be cost effective. Because of the power of the NEA and various state educators unions outstanding teachers tend to get paid the same as marginal teachers. It is hard to think of a system more screwed up and dysfunctional than public education.

61 posted on 03/29/2005 9:39:07 AM PST by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: scripter; sure_fine

It's worse than "very disturbing". It's the mind control and brainwashing agenda of the NEA-homo faction, another part of The Enemy Within™. This filth has no place in public schools.


62 posted on 03/29/2005 9:46:19 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: little jeremiah
Yes LJ it's a very serious problem. Doping the kids up so they do, say and thin what the schools want them to. Another one South Park did a good parody on!
63 posted on 03/29/2005 10:53:39 AM PST by gidget7
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To: scripter
That's a very disturbing statement.

Since public schools know better than you what to teach your children, you just need to relax and let them do their job. Just hush now, go back to sleep. Public schools have eeeeverything under control. Nothing to get concerned about here. There... that's better. :-) </sarcasm>

64 posted on 03/29/2005 10:56:58 AM PST by TChris (Just once, we need an elected official to stand up to a clearly incorrect ruling by a court. - Ann C)
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To: little jeremiah

I really like this post. I mean, I really like it. I was unaware others out there thought exactly as I do on the subject of ADD. Bravo!


65 posted on 03/29/2005 10:57:18 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: little jeremiah
I am so afraid that day is long gone! Instead we get quit smoking ads. Healthy normal people are demonized
66 posted on 03/29/2005 11:03:41 AM PST by gidget7
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To: Logophile
While I agree in principle, I have neither the time or energy, nor the inclination; to worry about the public school system for other parents.

I decided that if I was going to have to spend many, many hour riding shotgun on the teachers and the administration, I would rather spend the time for the exclusive use of my child.

If parents are too lazy to either homeschool OR watch the schools, then their kids can flip burgers while mine go on to sucessful lives.

67 posted on 03/29/2005 11:34:53 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: lillybet

I agree. We need to open up and point it out for what it is. Their lifestyle is not natural. They need human interaction, but it does not make it right.

It is up to them and their creator to sort it out, but I do not want to have our nation accepting and legalizing all of this stuff,


68 posted on 03/29/2005 11:45:39 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: clee1
While I agree in principle, I have neither the time or energy, nor the inclination; to worry about the public school system for other parents.

I understand completely. I am not suggesting that you cure the public schools by yourself.

What we need is a group that can oppose the teachers' unions. I have in mind an organization that works to protect parental rights in education, in much the same way that the NRA works to protect Second Amendment rights. Would you support such a group?

69 posted on 03/29/2005 11:59:30 AM PST by Logophile
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To: clee1
If parents are too lazy to either homeschool OR watch the schools, then their kids can flip burgers while mine go on to sucessful lives.

Too many of their kids won't be flipping burgers. Instead, they will be living off the government dole at the expense of your children.

70 posted on 03/29/2005 12:01:53 PM PST by Logophile
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To: clee1
If parents are too lazy to either homeschool OR watch the schools, then their kids can flip burgers while mine go on to sucessful lives.

Too many of their kids won't be flipping burgers. Instead, they will be living off the government dole at the expense of your children.

71 posted on 03/29/2005 12:02:23 PM PST by Logophile
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To: clee1; latina4dubya
I concur.

I work hard so my wife can take the time to be an excellent homeschool teacher. Besides being beautiful, when she's not teaching, she's putting a new curriculum together, attending seminars and hosting TNTs (Teachers Night Together) with other homeschool moms. She also gets involved with online classical education discussions, writes her own homeschool website to encourage others, and various other things I (the principle) don't know about.

Outside of that we have little league, AWANA, piano lessons, etc. We have no time nor interest in fixing the public schools, but we do what we can to make the load a little lighter on public schools by homeschooling and encouraging others to do the same.

72 posted on 03/29/2005 12:08:35 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Mikey

That was awesome. Thank you.


73 posted on 03/29/2005 12:16:29 PM PST by nuclady
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To: scripter
I believe it's a fairly complicated issue: those without kids pay taxes for the schools those who raised kids elsewhere and move have to pay local taxes for schools they never used those who homeschool may still use some of the public school facilities, so how do you determine the rebate And other similar issues.

Those are good points.

I think a case can made, though, morally and logically if not politically, for vouchers to parents of home schoolers and private schoolers.

Taxpayers without children or with children in public schools are paying once for education in their community. Home schoolers and other private schoolers are paying twice.

You'd think lefties would agree with this, so they could more easily afford the choice to send their charges to the Jonny Walker Lind Free School, or some such. Just shows again that most of them are interested in money and power (in this case the NEA dues money), not principle.

74 posted on 03/29/2005 12:30:15 PM PST by SupplySider
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To: scripter
students who believe homosexual behavior is wrong to keep their opinions to themselves, prompting a federal lawsuit.

The next McCain Feingold incursion into extermination of First Amendment rights...

75 posted on 03/29/2005 12:59:12 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: SteveMcKing

Think of this then: In a small community, your say has ALOT more clout than in say... Fulton County (Atlanta)

Public School may be best for you, and worth fighting for, but that's because you are on equal footing with anybody else.

In big towns, your voice is easily lost.

So this would argue that one should homeschool when the public school is at odds with you (and likely would remain so) And let them go to public school when you have a better say in things.


76 posted on 03/29/2005 1:09:07 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: little jeremiah

Apparently, a lot of these kids are refugees from the local public school. At one time, applicants for admittance to the Catholic school had to take an entrance exam (and this is a K-8 school). Now, the diocese wants to be more "inclusive." Many of these students would not have been accepted two or three years ago. The school doesn't have all the special ed and reading teachers the local public school has (not that it's done these kids any good). Many of these kids can't do grade level work (or at least the work that is expected in Catholic school).

My sister-in-law is afraid her school is going to deteriorate.

It's ashame it took so long for parents to finally figure out that their sons and daughters can't read or do math at grade level. Many of them expect this school to work miracles and get their children ready for prep school.


77 posted on 03/29/2005 1:45:39 PM PST by ladylib
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To: SteveMcKing

"That public school belongs to you. Fight for it."


What you said might hopefully wake people up. If we're paying the same taxes, don't we have the same rights as liberals?

If they really want to peddle their tax-supported ideas at a "diversity training" class, fine. Invite those who want to attend. But others have the tax-supported right not to.


78 posted on 03/29/2005 2:21:27 PM PST by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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To: SupplySider
A rebate would indeed be nice - we could use it for supplies. Vouchers would be nice as well, really nice, but with vouchers come potentially dangerous government involvment in our private homeschool, so we'll never accept vouchers for that very reason.

Perhaps once lefties realize what vouchers could potentially provide to their agenda, they just might become proponents of vouchers for homeschoolers...

79 posted on 03/29/2005 2:40:17 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
That's a very disturbing statement.

Revolution time!

The citizenry needs to take back what they've been giving away for a century!

80 posted on 03/29/2005 2:42:19 PM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal Today)
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