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Terri Schiavo requested to testify. ( Good news! )
Drudge Report | 03/18/05 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 03/17/2005 9:58:21 PM PST by JeffMBattle

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To: george wythe

It's not an opinion, it's a fact. It cannot be proven that these were her wishes, except by the evidence of the man who has a clear and OVERHWELMING conflict of interest.


881 posted on 03/18/2005 9:50:51 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: conservativebabe

Have you?


882 posted on 03/18/2005 9:51:08 AM PST by Hildy
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To: All

Breaking on FOX

Feeding tube WILL NOT be removed today. Order of federal judge


883 posted on 03/18/2005 9:51:10 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
People such as President Bush, right?

How about linking Bush's exact statement on Terri right here.

884 posted on 03/18/2005 9:51:24 AM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: zook

Zook, I'm sorry you are sick. Terry is REALLY sick and needs our help and prayers. That is probably a more serious sickness than yours right now.

PS They just announced no tube coming out today!!!!!!!!!!!!!


885 posted on 03/18/2005 9:51:30 AM PST by ReformedTreeHugger
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To: FarmerW; the Deejay
Layman's explanation from Reuters:
Brain scans that were part of the state court record showed the part of her brain that controls thought and voluntary movement had atrophied and filled with spinal fluid after the heart attack deprived it of oxygen.

The brain stem, which controls involuntary movement such as breathing and blinking, remains.

Terri's brain cortex is gone or almost gone. Her brain stem remains.
886 posted on 03/18/2005 9:51:52 AM PST by george wythe
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To: Hildy

Of course not.


887 posted on 03/18/2005 9:51:54 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: ohioWfan

"Please respond to my question.
Should all those who cannot feed themselves, ARE NOT IN A PVS or on artificial life support, be "allowed to die?"

But your question does not apply here. ( writing things in capitals does not mae it so )


888 posted on 03/18/2005 9:52:19 AM PST by RS (Keeping them honest since 1998)
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To: JCEccles

....Terri's plight has laid bare an ugly secret about America: a substantial number of Americans, including self-described religious conservatives, are in agreement with, and would welcome the full implementation of, secular liberal Europe's utilitarian view of the worth of innocent human life.


...........

How right you are!

And, it scares me to death. Be careful what you allow the death culture to sneak into place. We now have activist judges who can pick and choose precedent, international law comparisons.

I do not want to live in a country that plays god and determines when the weak must die.

We fight for freedom - not freedom to kill.


889 posted on 03/18/2005 9:52:23 AM PST by ClancyJ (Sometimes we're a think tank, and sometimes we're just a tank ! - SlowBoat 407)
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To: gopwinsin04

BINGO!


890 posted on 03/18/2005 9:52:33 AM PST by bonfire
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To: conservativebabe
I'm so sick of those on this thread who are holier than thou, smarter than everyone else because they have "facts"

Thing is...they DON'T have facts....Just media HYPE.

891 posted on 03/18/2005 9:53:47 AM PST by the Deejay
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To: the Deejay

Hey, it's all they have. :-)


892 posted on 03/18/2005 9:53:51 AM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: gopwinsin04
He received that money AFTER years of seeking therapy. Because nobody here does there homework, I'll do it for you:

ROUGH TIMELINE AND DECISIONS

I encourage anyone interested in this case to read the judicial decisions that have been entered. Most informative, from a factual point of view, are Judge Greer's orders and the Second District's decisions. The December 2003 guardian ad litem report to Governor Bush provides perhaps the most detailed factual chronology available.

December 1963&#8230 Terri's birth date
November 1984&#8230 Terri & Michael marry
February 1990&#8230 Terri suffers cardiac arrest and a severe loss of oxygen to her brain
May 1990&#8230 Terri leaves hospital and is brought to a rehabiliation center for aggressive therapy
July 1990&#8230 Terri is brought to the home where her husband and parents live; after a few weeks, she is brought back to the rehabilitation center
November 1990&#8230 Terri is taken to California for experimental therapies
January 1991&#8230 Terri is returned to Florida and placed at a rehabilitation center in Brandon
July 1991&#8230 Terri is transfered to a skilled nursing facility where she receives aggressive physical therapy and speech therapy
May 1992&#8230 Michael and the Schindlers stop living together
January 1993&#8230 Michael recovers $1 million settlement for medical malpractice claim involving Terri's care; jury had ruled in Michael's favor on allegations Terri's doctors failed to diagnose her bulimia, which led to her heart failure; case settled while on appeal
March 1994&#8230 Terri is transferred to a Largo nursing home
May 1998&#8230 Michael files petition for court to determine whether Terri's feeding tube should be removed; Michael takes position that Terri would chose to remove the tube; Terri's parents take position that Terri would chose not to remove the tube
February 2000&#8230 Following trial, Judge Greer rules that clear and convincing evidence shows Terri would chose not to receive life-prolonging medical care under her current circumstances (i.e., that she would chose to have the tube removed) [READ]
April 2000&#8230 Terri is transferred to a Hospice facility
January 2001&#8230 Second District Court of Appeal affirms the trial court's decision regarding Terri's wishes [READ]
April 23, 2001&#8230 Florida Supreme Court denies review of the Second District's decision [READ]
April 23 or 24, 2001&#8230 Trial court orders feeding tube removed
April 24, 2001&#8230 Terri's feeding tube is removed
April 26, 2001&#8230 Terri's parents file motion asserting they have new evidence regarding Terri's wishes
April 26, 2001&#8230 Trial court denies Terri's parents' motion as untimely
April 26, 2001&#8230 Terri's parents file new legal action against Michael Schiavo and request that the removal of Terri's feeding tube be enjoined; the case is randomly assigned to Judge Quesada
April 26, 2001&#8230 Judge Quesada grants the temporary injunction, orders Terri's feeding tube restored
July 2001&#8230 Second District rules that Judge Greer erred in denying the motion alleging new evidence and, in essence, orders the trial court to consider whether new circumstances make enforcement of the original order inequitable; Second District also reverses the temporary injunction and orders dismissal of much of the new action filed before Judge Quesada [READ]
(uncertain)&#8230 Terri's parents detail their reasons why enforcement is inequitable: (1) new witnesses have new information regarding Terri's wishes, and (2) new medical treatment could sufficiently restore Terri's cognitive functioning such that Terri would decide that, under those circumstances, she would continue life-prolonging measures; Terri's parents also move to disqualify Judge Greer
(uncertain)&#8230 Trial court denies both motions as insufficient
October 2001&#8230 Second District affirms the denial of the motion to disqualify and the motion regarding the new witnesses; the appellate court reverses the order with regard to potential new medical treatments and orders a trial on that question with doctors testifying for both sides and a court-appointed independent doctor [READ]
March 2002&#8230 Florida Supreme Court denies review of the Second District's decision [READ]
October 2002&#8230 Judge Greer holds a trial on the new medical treatment issue, hearing from doctors for both sides and a court-appointed independent doctor; Terri's parents also assert that Terri is not in a persistent vegetative state
Schindlers file emergency motion for relief from judgment based on a 1991 bone scan report indicating Terri's body had previously been subjected to trauma
November 22, 2002&#8230 Following trial, Judge Greer denies Schindlers' motion for relief (new medical evidence motion), rules that no new treatment offers sufficient promise of improving Terri's cognitive functioning and that Terri is, in fact, in a persistent vegetative state [READ]
November 22, 2002&#8230 On this same day, Judge Greer denies Schindlers' emergency motion related to the 1991 bone scan [READ]
June 2003&#8230 Second District affirms the trial court's decision denying Schindlers' motion for relief from judgment [READ]
August 2003&#8230 Florida Supreme Court denies review of the Second District's decision [READ]
September 2003&#8230 Terri's parents file federal action challenging Florida's laws on life-prolonging procedures as unconstitutional
October&nbsp10, 2003&#8230 Federal court dismisses Schindlers' case
October&nbsp15, 2003&#8230 Terri's feeding tube is disconnected
October&nbsp20, 2003&#8230 Florida House passes a bill to permit the Governor to issue a stay in cases like Terri's and restore her feeding tube
October&nbsp21, 2003&#8230 Federal court rejects injunction request
October&nbsp21, 2003&#8230 Florida House and Senate pass a bill known informally as "Terri's Law" to permit the Governor to issue a stay in cases like Terri's and restore her feeding tube [READ]; Governor signs the bill into law and immediately orders a stay; Terri is briefly hospitalized while her feeding tube is restored
October&nbsp21, 2003&#8230 Michael brings suit against the Governor, asking to enjoin the Governor's stay on grounds "Terri's Law" is unconstitutional; Judge Baird rejects Michael's request for an immediate injunction, allowing the tube to be restored, and requests briefs on the constitutional arguments involving the new law
November 7, 2003&#8230 Judge Baird rejects Governor's motion to dismiss Michael's suit and have case litigated in Tallahassee
November 20, 2003&#8230 Judge Baird rejects Governor's request for the judge to recuse himself
December 1, 2003&#8230 Guardian ad litem appointed under "Terri's Law" to advise Governor submits report to Governor [READ]
December 10, 2003&#8230 Second District rejects Governor's effort to have Judge Baird disqualified
April 2004&#8230 Second District affirms Judge Baird's decision denying Governor's motion to dismiss and have case litigated in Tallahassee [READ]
May 2004&#8230 Judge Baird declares "Terri's Law" unconstitutional on numerous grounds [READ]
June 2004&#8230 Second District certifies "Terri's Law" case directly to the Florida Supreme Court
July 2004&#8230 Schindlers file new motion for relief from judgment based on Pope John Paul II speech
September 2004&#8230 Florida Supreme Court affirms Judge Baird's ruling that "Terri's Law" is unconstitutional [READ]
October&nbsp2004&#8230 Judge Greer denies Schindlers' most recent motion for relief from judgment (motion based on Pope John Paul II speech) [READ]
December 1, 2004&#8230 Governor asks U.S. Supreme Court to review Florida Supreme Court's decision declaring "Terri's Law" unconstitutional
December 29, 2004&#8230 Second District affirms (without written opinion) Judge Greer's ruling denying Schindlers' most recent motion for relief from judgment
January 6, 2005&#8230 Schindlers file new motion for relief from judgment, alleging Terri never had her own attorney, that the trial court impermissibly applied the law retroactively, and that the original trial on Terri's wishes violated separation of powers principles
January 24, 2005&#8230 U.S. Supreme Court declines review in "Terri's Law" case
February 11, 2005&#8230 Judge Greer denies Schindlers' latest motion for relief from judgment [READ]

893 posted on 03/18/2005 9:54:04 AM PST by Hildy
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To: kimmie7
Thank you for fighting the good fight. "The right to death, liberty-to-kill, and the pursuit of euthanasia."
894 posted on 03/18/2005 9:54:40 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (I hope my [hello?] watermarks aren't too [yaa-aah!] distracting.)
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To: JeffMBattle

Go Enzie! We Wyoming folks can be handy sometimes. :-)


895 posted on 03/18/2005 9:54:49 AM PST by TChris (Lousy homophobic FReeper troll, religious right, VRWC member)
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To: Hildy
You've come to the conclusion that Terri is not in a PVS? Are a Dr.? Have you seen her? Visited her? Seen her brain scans? You must have missed this in your "intensive" research.

Perhaps. To all. This is the internet, dearie. I could be anyone, and you wouldn't know it.

And after reading your "Terri Opus" I can't believe you would subject yourself to any further debate about the situation. So I won't bore you with morals, or the truth. You may be a very nice person, conservative in most ways, and a great, long-time FReeper -- but you're acting like a child by flame-baiting.

Hit abuse if you will. I'm a donor and relatively long-time member as well. If I get suspended because of something so trivial as this, well, it's been a great ride.

896 posted on 03/18/2005 9:54:51 AM PST by kimmie7 (Hooking up a feeding tube is no different than bringing a tray to a hospital room. Easier, in fact.)
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To: Howlin

The Federal Government represents the people - I thought we were the people, whose pursuit of LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness was its responsibility to protect.

I could be wrong and I am sure you will correct me.


897 posted on 03/18/2005 9:55:30 AM PST by sodpoodle (sparrows are underrated)
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To: Howlin

I guess I am just different--maybe more insecure or something, BUT

I just think it would be so wonderful for my life or my daughter's life to mean so much to complete strangers like the senate and house of the US, the POPE, and people from all over the world, that they would go to this much trouble to at least make sure that everything possible is done to help---

This whole episode has made me have HOPE for a country that I was beginning to believe was losing its spirit of God, and family---after all, her mother gave birth to her, so I don't think that anyone, no husband, no judge should be able to kill that woman's child!!!


898 posted on 03/18/2005 9:55:36 AM PST by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Chief Justice!)
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To: All

Tube will stay in a Judge in Florida has ruled. TUBE TO STAY IN FOR NOW! Fox News Developing!


899 posted on 03/18/2005 9:55:39 AM PST by defconw
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To: Howlin

You're welcome. You've a great intellect. We just disagree on this one.


900 posted on 03/18/2005 9:56:03 AM PST by kimmie7 (Hooking up a feeding tube is no different than bringing a tray to a hospital room. Easier, in fact.)
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