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To: jan in Colorado
The question is, should Islam be considered a religion?

Yes.

*‘Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth’

*‘Islam Christianity isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an Bible should be the highest authority in America, and Islam Christianity the only accepted religion on earth’

So as Americans, are we suppose to just allow this ideology to take over our Country?

Oh, please. Dispense with the hysterics. The first amendment is still intact. Oh, and by the way, if it only applies to religions you personally like, then it is meaningless.

If you want to know what religious persecution in America looked like, study the history of the Mormon church. Pay particular attention to the Missouri Extermination order; bounty on any Mormon you killed. Is that what you are advocating?

76 posted on 03/14/2005 1:26:37 PM PST by frgoff
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To: frgoff
>>>>>Oh, please. Dispense with the hysterics.

I thought I had remained quite calm here! I asked you a question, and you answered it.

So you see Islam as a religion and I see it as an ideology.

You substituted the Bible for the koran and Christianity for islam.

There is a BIG difference between the two.

One being that becoming a Christian or not is a CHOICE. You can choose to be a Christian or you can refuse it. Once a Christian, you may walk away any time you wish. The submission to Jesus Christ is by your own free will. So your claim that Christianity is the only acceptable religion in this Country is false. I have no problem with a person having different beliefs than myself. I do have a problem if there is an agenda by an ideology to force me to believe what they do or die.

When a "religion" encourages or approves lying to further their agenda, I question what kind of god they are worshiping?

The God of the Holy Bible says:

Therefore,thus says the Lord God, "Because you have spoken falsehood and seen a lie, therefore behold, I am against you," declares the Lord God.Ezekiel 13:8

When I have some time maybe I'll take a look at the religious persecution you mentioned, although I'm seeing plenty of it firsthand right now by the ACLU.

79 posted on 03/14/2005 2:48:41 PM PST by jan in Colorado (The ACLU and CAIR ...Enemies from within!)
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To: frgoff; jan in Colorado; BayouCoyote; USF

Do you also believe Islam is a peaceful, tolerant religion?


82 posted on 03/14/2005 3:47:09 PM PST by Proud Infidel (There is no such thing as a moderate Huitzilopochtlist.)
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To: frgoff
*‘Islam Christianity isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an Bible should be the highest authority in America, and Islam Christianity the only accepted religion on earth’

What utter BS, and a fine example of why your argument has holes all over it. I have not seen anyone on this thread say Christianity is supposed to be the only accepted religion on earth etc, but when one of the leaders of CAIR says it, you don't condemn it, but instead try and cover for it by applying it to another religion even though the shoe does not fit - on a thread about taquiyya and kitman no less. Interesting and duly noted.

84 posted on 03/14/2005 3:58:50 PM PST by Proud Infidel (There is no such thing as a moderate Huitzilopochtlist.)
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To: frgoff; Zivasmate; Bennett46; BayouCoyote; Proud Infidel
The difference is, Islam is not just a "religion," as it contains a political system (sharia) which is one of it's cornerstones.... a bigoted system of gender and religious apartheid.

And btw, haven't we had this discussion before?

Oh, please. Dispense with the hysterics.

What a great way to ignore the question and move your attention onto something else!

The first amendment is still intact.

Sure, but if CAIR and Co, has their way....

As for religious persecution, I suggest you take a closer look at the islamic religious freakdoms of the middle east and the life of the dhimmis there..

Is that what you are advocating?

You know that she's not. What the matter? Can't get anywhere in a debate without setting up a straw man argument or putting words into peoples mouths?

85 posted on 03/14/2005 4:06:17 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: frgoff
If you want to know what religious persecution in America looked like, study the history of the Mormon church.

You're right. We all know Islam has no history of religous persecution.

89 posted on 03/14/2005 4:45:13 PM PST by Proud Infidel (There is no such thing as a moderate Huitzilopochtlist.)
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To: frgoff

Read the Koran, then talk


138 posted on 03/16/2005 4:54:51 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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