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To: angelanddevil2
Who put the woman or anyone else in charge of determining whether or not a baby must involuntarily experience the most consequential activity he/she will ever face - death.

You are redefining terms. The vast majority of people do not define the unborn as a baby. Until you come into this world and have a "birth day", you are not independently experiencing this human environment.

LIFE put women in charge of determining whether or not they will give birth.

How about the cases where giving birth would very likely cause the death of the mother, would you advocate that outcome?

I disagree that human death is the most consequential thing we humans experience. Everyone dies, it is not optional. Everyone does not have the possibility of giving birth. If the human experiences are prevented from beginning, that is quite different than dying when you are an adult parent with other family members dependent upon you, which is different than dying when you are old and no longer able to function.

69 posted on 03/04/2005 10:28:00 AM PST by Semper
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To: Semper

I don't know your background or experiences so I have to assume you really believe what you are writing and that is sad. I have never met a woman who was pregnant who didn't talk about her baby in the present tense. Then there are such terms as 'baby showers', 'being with child', baby on board t-shirts etc. Notice none of those use the term fetus but rather baby. That is because every thinking person knows that an expectant mother is carrying a baby not some non-descript fetus. The term fetus may be medically correct, but is socially uncommon and awkward and used only by those trying to dehumanize the unborn child. I feel very sorry for people like you who feel only those children that can be born into a "high quality of life" with great innate potential for happiness should be allowed to live. Who annointed you G*d and gave you the right to determine who over a long lifetime will enjoy a productive and useful life.


82 posted on 03/05/2005 8:40:50 PM PST by redangus
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