[Next_Time_NJ]

What you call pre-mediate is nothing more then going in your fathers closet and getting a gun and shooting someone. You thought about that prior to doing it.. and then did it.. Thats the yard stick we use to messure if a child is "grown up enough" to die? A 10 year old can do that.. doesnt make your grown up.

[M 91 u2 K]

Motive also. Obviously a 17 year old can have the motive to rob someone for money and kill them.

Still you would want to give these monsters a second chance to kill and rape.