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To: shubi
If creationism is science, you should be able to answer these questions:

Nice segue but it doesn't help you a bit. You stated that "there are no creationists who do science". The statement is false. A creationist, by definition, is somebody who believes that God created the Universe and all that is in it. That seemingly describes all Christians, except you.

To prove your statement false, one would simply have to name one creationist who did science. There have been literally millions of them.

I leave it as an exercise for you to set your straw dog aflame.

230 posted on 02/20/2005 11:11:32 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Did you not understand that he was refering to this so-called "creation science", or are you just dodging?


232 posted on 02/20/2005 11:17:41 AM PST by anguish (while science catches up.... mysticism!)
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To: jwalsh07

sIf creationism is science, you should be able to answer these questions:
jNice segue but it doesn't help you a bit. You stated that "there are no creationists who do science". The statement is false. A creationist, by definition, is somebody who believes that God created the Universe and all that is in it. That seemingly describes all Christians, except you.

That is not the definition of creationist used in this debate. I am a theistic evolutionist which is a belief in God the creator, but does not make me an apostle of the false prophets: Morris, Ham or Dembski. Can you not be honest in just one part of this debate? Are you just trying to be nasty?

"To prove your statement false, one would simply have to name one creationist who did science. There have been literally millions of them. "

No, you would have to name someone at AIG, ICR or ID that has demonstrated they are able to understand and do scientific inquiry in evolutionary biology or some aspect of it. This does not count chemistry, hydrology or some science outside of this debate, and you know it.


jI leave it as an exercise for you to set your straw dog aflame.

I don't think you have the ability to debate in good faith and I am glad I was able to demonstrate this to the lurkers.


234 posted on 02/20/2005 11:18:08 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: jwalsh07
A creationist, by definition, is somebody who believes that God created the Universe and all that is in it

Both True and misleading enough to be massively False.

It's like saying "A democrat, by definition, is somebody who believes a democratic system of government where the people are able to decide who the leaders are to be"

It conceals the fact the Creationist, like Democrat, also has, by common usage, a specific meaning. "wacko nut-job lying to con the people"

277 posted on 02/20/2005 1:44:24 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free")
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To: jwalsh07
If America had not started off on the wrong foot as a puritanical state(s), the bible myths would not be so deeply entrenched, there would be no debate about evolution.

Scientists would not have to waste time dispelling myths and old wives tales.

The hypocrisy of christians is very notable when they send their children to public schools and then gripe about evolution being taught. Seriously, why don't they just stay home or send their children to a private school. These flat-earthers want to indoctrinate other people's children in their myths and use the state to do it.

If we want to keep our technological lead, we have to stress science and technology instead of mythology. The snake did it.

396 posted on 02/21/2005 3:31:48 PM PST by Step_Into_the_Void (Ernst Mayr, RIP)
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