[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Not so. A wing is an arm whether or not it has feathers. It is a specialized arm designed for flight. Take away the feathers which are a part of the design, you lose flight. Thus we see, in this case, that feathers are an irreducibly complex component for the function of flight. Since a wing is specifically a forearm designed for flight, removing that capability renders it useless for that design.

And yes, you can come up with examples of organs or body parts which have multiple functions (the esophagus, for example), Your wing example was just not a good one.

However, this still begs the question. How do the irreducibly complex parts of a cell get together and create a living organism? Direct Darwinian Paths are generally ruled out, even by hard-core evolutionists themselves. Indirect paths are the favored method of many Darwinists, but a lot of assumptions go into these calculations - including the one that it will eventually be solved in the future sometime. Sorry, but that is neither falsifiable nor testable.

I thought that we were talking of birds in particular. If you are going to generalize to other forms of flight, why stop with bats, insects, etc.? Why not include mankind?

BTW, bats are an interesting study. There are two main types (big bats and small bats) whose evolutionary pedigree are totally different. What are the odds against, not only a complex organism like the bat evolving the way Darwinists say, but a parallel evolution with the same form and function?

[orionblamblam]

> Thus we see, in this case, that feathers are an irreducibly complex component for the function of flight.

That's true, but it's also irrelevant. As I *hope* you can understand, the flight function is a *result* of the capability produced by the evolution of long arms and feathers. Irreducible complexity thus shows itself to be a silly arguement

> What are the odds against, not only a complex organism like the bat evolving the way Darwinists say, but a parallel evolution with the same form and function?

The odds against? Pretty low, it seems, as it has happened.