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Posted on 02/16/2005 11:01:16 AM PST by Alter Kaker
You claimed that I said something.
When challenged you cited a post by me which does not back up your claim. I am very careful about what I type. If I make a mistake I withdraw. You have now demonstrated on more than one occasion in this thread alone that you are not so careful in your reading.
Now you claim that you have no need to withdraw.
What kind of image of your religion do you think you are projecting?
I will not be posting to you further as you demonstrably have no interest in accuracy or the truth.
I for one am pretty sick and tired of you equating the word "Christian" with YEC/ID fundamentalism. I am pretty sick and tired of Freepers acting like democrats and whining about victimhood.
A respect for accuracy in debate? If people are allowed to make manifestly false statements and can't be called on it (which is exactly what DannyTN thought he was doing... I'm willing to concede that he probably just made a mistake) then what point is there in posting here.
Do you deny the God is the Designer? Just be honest. Don't hide your light. Is God the Designer? Yes or no.
M=No. It says the earth has four corners and if you climb a tall tree you can see all four corners.
He was questioning Darwin, and was censured for it. He has two PhD's in evolutionary biology, but he was 'called out' because he questioned Darwinian theory, and the powers that be shut him down.
It speaks volumes about the religious fervor and desire to censor differences of opinion of the evolutionists at the Smithsonian.
So ID is not about "God"? Then it must be about space aliens ...
Certainly I think God is the designer. But that doesn't matter.
The issue is whether the items being studied best demonstrate design or evolution or some other explanation.
A belief that there is no God is just as much a religious belief as a belief that there is a God. But that question can and should be separated.
ID can stand alone as science without specifying who or what the intelligence is behind the design.
Certainly I think God is the designer. But that doesn't matter.
The issue is whether the items being studied best demonstrate design or evolution or some other explanation.
A belief that there is no God is just as much a religious belief as a belief that there is a God. But that question can and should be separated.
ID can stand alone as science without specifying who or what the intelligence is behind the design.
Please ignore Wild Turkey, Wisconsin. In spite of his claims, he doesn't know what the Bible teaches, and he's proven it repeatedly.
It speaks about not mixing religious beliefs into science.
Thanks for the ping!
Doesn't matter. If the evidence points to a designer of any kind, whether or not that designer can be identified, follow the evidence.
What would you do if the evidence, hard scientific evidence, pointed to God. Would you still exclude Him as "supernatural"? Or would you follow the evidence?
If they admit ID is a valid scientific theory, then they have to admit the possibility that God actually exists, and they won't do that.
So legitimate researchers who have no religious motivation are dismissed because of fear.
These guys are just mixing your faith into the argument because it clouds the actual issue that valid research is being ignored because it doesn't fit the approved template.
Somewhere, beyond the rainbow, the Raelians are cheering.
You are completely misinformed.
No it can't, and your statement makes no sense. There is no science of ID. There is no objective procedure for detecting design, no possible designer other than God, and there is no possible way to argue that something is not designed, because God can do anything.
I have presented a number of objects on this thread and asked whether they are designed or not, and no one has responded. You and Behe claim that design is obvious.
Well guess what, it isn't obvious, and neither you nor Behe can make it obvious by waving your magic wands.
If design cannot be determined by an objective analysis of an object, then ID has no content and nothing to study.
You were misinformed if you think that it was valid research and evidence ...
Show me the proof that only a few dozen have been found. That said, they found a lot more than one skull and a few bones, in fact, complete skeletons were found. IN addition, the dinosaur bones are so species specific that it is obvious evidence. You give me a complete skeleton of transitional man, I'll put the egg on my own face.
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