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With all due respect, Fester, what you just said is absolute horse crap.

Somehow I sense a lack of respect in your attitude, an overdeveloped faith in your aptitude, and a downright emotional devotion to your cause, none of which sensibly addresses the point at hand. Evolution is a philosophy that deserves a classroom distinguished from those devoted to empirical science.

Somehow I sense a lack of respect in your attitude, an overdeveloped faith in your aptitude, and a downright emotional devotion to your cause, none of which sensibly addresses the point at hand.

I addressed all the points you made, and you haven't even attempted any sort of actual rebuttal. Is your case that weak?

Evolution is a philosophy that deserves a classroom distinguished from those devoted to empirical science.

I dare you to try to actually make a case for this assertion of yours, without once making a logical error, a sweeping overgeneralization you can't support, an error about how empirical science is actually done, repeating a misconception about evolutionary biology, stating something that is clearly contradicted by the evidence (and/or declaring there is no evidence for something when such evidence already exists), using a quote out of context, or telling a clear falsehood.

*I* can put forth evidence and argue a case for all the things I say on these threads -- can you? Do you even know how?

Feel free to actually make your case for a change without just making unsupported rants and accusations -- or run away from it, spewing more vitriol.

I'm tired of your empty accusations and your lame evasions. Time to show everyone whether you're actually the voice of reason on this issue you obviously believe yourself to be; or just a loudmouth who mistakes his prejudices for reality?

In short -- the time is overdue for you to put up or shut up.

Which will it be?

Somehow I sense a lack of respect in your attitude

I'd like to associate myself with Ichneumon's lack of respect

, an overdeveloped faith in your aptitude,

...and I also have a faith in Ich's aptitude (well, maybe faith is the wrong word).

Evolution is a philosophy that deserves a classroom distinguished from those devoted to empirical science.

And I'd have a little respect for you, too, if you actually did more than repeat this, over and over and over again, without developing it significantly, or addressing the many contrary arguments that have been presented to you.