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To: patent; EagleUSA
It is a distinctly modern notion that religion has no place in politics. It is designed by liberals and communists to drive religious people out of politics and into the closet, where they can be safely ruled by their “betters.” No thanks. I’ll stick with the true Constitutional principles, and true founding principles, and I’ll continue to have my vote informed by my religious beliefs.

Excellent post.

EagleUSA's unease with religion: "We all have our opinions" is a good illustration of why Kerry did badly among Catholics, - and especially badly among serious Catholics. When asked about his responsibility for pro-abortion legislation, Kerry offered the same rationale: -- I don't believe in killing babies, but others do; since opinions about killing babies are domain of religion, I cannot possibly allow my personal opposition to murder get in the way.

This is an awful breakdown of cognitive ability from any standpoint. But it cost him more among the Catholics, because a Catholic is more likely than a Protestant or an irreligious to distinguish between the voluntary obligations one uniquely has as Catholic (such as gong to confession now and then) and universal truths proclaimed by the Catholic church to all men of integrity (such as not to commit murder). The Protestants have too much invested in the habit of forming 22,000 mutually incompatible doctrines, to immediately recognize that Mr. Kerry, with his separation of religion and politics, is only fit to legislate in a farm of animals.

22 posted on 02/03/2005 4:36:14 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex

>>>>The Protestants have too much invested in the habit of forming 22,000 mutually incompatible doctrines,

I don't know that this is the problem, so much as the liberalism of a couple denominations/preachers, etc. I think the churches that have been pushing to have gay marriage, etc. are pushing their parisioners into the arms of politicians like kerry. They are quite naturally applying what their preachers taught them. 30 years ago no one was teaching the things that would have encouraged them to vote for an extreme lib like kerry, but today that's precisely where these denominations are going.


>>>>to immediately recognize that Mr. Kerry, with his separation of religion and politics, is only fit to legislate in a farm of animals.

LOL.


24 posted on 02/03/2005 7:13:43 PM PST by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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To: annalex
The Protestants have too much invested in the habit of forming 22,000 mutually incompatible doctrines, to immediately recognize that Mr. Kerry, with his separation of religion and politics, is only fit to legislate in a farm of animals.

Since Protestants have typically voted more in favor of the Reps than Catholics, I would reject this idea.

The reality is that the pastors and ministers of these Churches have been liberalizing their doctrine. As a result some of the congregation no longer know right from wrong. Perhaps you've followed, as example, the allowance of homosexual pastors.

Of the remainder, many have left in favor of churches that adhere strictly to scripture. They've blended into the evangelical movement, non denominational churches, some into the Catholic Chruch etc... The reason Catholics increased is the same reason Protestants decreased. Their Preists took an active role. Only in the case of catholics, the Priests have begun to speak out against the liberal doctrines coming from those within. It is the same with Jews. The Orthodox among them have stayed true to doctrine and are stregthening their numbers. There was an increase in the Jewish vote and we can attribute, I believe, directly to the attention paid to being true to their faith.

26 posted on 02/03/2005 8:40:59 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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