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To: metacognative; PatrickHenry
Besides the magical alchemy of "evolution"...

There's nothing "magical" about the way evolution works -- as you would know if you bothered to *LEARN* something about the subject before you spout off AGAIN about it... You just have no shame whatsoever, do you?

Nor is it in any way comparable to "alchemy" -- again, as any school student is capable of knowing if they just bother to read some books. It's not that hard. So what's your excuse?

where do we see matter organizing to HIGHER forms?

Many places, actually. Hell, plant an acorn and wait a few years. An oak tree is far more "organized matter" than the original acorn itself, and/or any of the liquid water, carbon-dioxide gas, or nitrogen gas which got turned into "tree matter". I hate to disappoint you, but matter organizing itself is *not* against the laws of nature, it happens all around us.

For matter organizing without even a "seed", see for example:

Self-Organizing Systems (SOS) FAQ

Self-Organizing Systems: A Tutorial in Complexity

Self-Organization

Spontaneous Order, Self-Organizing Systems, and Autocatakinetics

Self-Organization & Entropy - The Terrible Twins

Self-Organizing Systems Resources

THE SCIENCE OF SELFORGANIZATION AND ADAPTIVITY

Wikipedia: Self-organization

Self-organization, Emergence and the Architecture of Complexity

Emergence of Constraint in Self-organizing Systems

Principia Cybernetica Web: Self-organization

Evolution of Complex Systems - Self Organization

Links on Complexity, Self-organization and Artificial Life

Any other questions?
510 posted on 01/30/2005 3:39:36 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

Good list. The Wikipedia article is the one I'll link to when the need arises. It's not only a good introduction to the subject, but it also has a link to "emergent properties," which is a related concept.


511 posted on 01/30/2005 4:04:24 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Ichneumon

I knoe more about evolution than you do because I look at all sides. I follow the evidence ...not a 150 year old cult.


524 posted on 01/30/2005 6:07:50 AM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
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