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To: Right Wing Professor
What kind of energy? Heat emitted at a high temperature? If you knew any thermo. at all, you'd know that mere energy means nothing in the context of the second law. Try G or A.

Certainly, you know that if you have a gas in a container and you add heat to the gas then the entropy will rise! So energy does have a relation to entropy. In fact, the heat energy flowing through a surface divided by the absolute temperature gives you the entropy! Most all forms of energy (if not all) ultimately dissipate as heat energy. I am neglecting the energy associated with the chemical bonding, but oftentimes even the bonding energy will later be liberated and dissipate as heat.

Does the availability of energy ensure that order can increase within an open system?

The answer to this last question is NO as you very well know.
1,081 posted on 01/31/2005 9:56:16 PM PST by nasamn777 (The emperor wears no clothes -- I am sorry to tell you!)
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To: nasamn777
Does the availability of energy ensure that order can increase within an open system?

The answer to this last question is NO as you very well know.

Read about laser cooling and get back to me.

1,085 posted on 01/31/2005 10:15:09 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Evolve or die!)
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To: nasamn777
The answer to this last question is NO as you very well know.

How very clever of you, especially the way you worded the question. Indeed, disorder will increase in the system as a whole, BUT order can increase locally (i.e., in part of the system).

1,107 posted on 02/01/2005 4:12:09 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: nasamn777
I am neglecting the energy associated with the chemical bonding, but oftentimes even the bonding energy will later be liberated and dissipate as heat.

You know, you might want to consider which vibrational-rotational states the reactants and products in the reaction are in as well ;-)

1,113 posted on 02/01/2005 5:44:28 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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