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hysterical Darwinites panic
crosswalk ^ | 2004 | creationist

Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

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To: 2AtHomeMom
Meyer's paper makes clear that the entropy decrease is NOT minuscule,

Meyer, hmmm. Isn't he that history teacher? Yeah, we really want to go to a history teacher for our science classes, DUH ...

and my posts and those of others make clear that the sun can NOT be a sufficient source of entropy decrease.

Your posts have shown you to be totally ignorant on science and just a regurgitator of the false propaganda of the creationists' websites.

841 posted on 01/31/2005 8:50:05 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: 2AtHomeMom
Meyer's paper makes clear that the entropy decrease is NOT minuscule,

Meyer, hmmm. Isn't he that history teacher? Yeah, we really want to go to a history teacher for our science classes, DUH ...

and my posts and those of others make clear that the sun can NOT be a sufficient source of entropy decrease.

Your posts have shown you to be totally ignorant on science and just a regurgitator of the false propaganda of the creationists' websites.

842 posted on 01/31/2005 8:50:12 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: metacognative

They sound like whining liberals.

Their tool of choice? Ad-Hominem attack. Thinking people are never persuaded by such nonsense. It actually makes their claims look more suspect.

'Course, they can always try to throw a few billion more monkeys at typewriters at the equation. Maybe they can find another trillion years or so to boot.

I gotta admit, it is mildly amusing to watch them squirm. They think they are still relevant.


843 posted on 01/31/2005 8:50:56 AM PST by RobRoy (I like you. You remind me of myself when I was young and stupid.)
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To: 2AtHomeMom
You were right that my entropy cite was creationist, wrong that it was from a website.

From his DVD?

844 posted on 01/31/2005 8:51:54 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: 2AtHomeMom
(pickiness about math symbols)

No. A pickiness to correct your incorrect formulas.

845 posted on 01/31/2005 8:53:03 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: bvw
Genesis says the Sun was created on the 4th day. do you believe it?

Genesis says land animals were created after birds. do you believe it?

JM
846 posted on 01/31/2005 9:05:51 AM PST by JohnnyM
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To: JohnnyM; bvw

Genesis says the Sun was created on the 1sh day. do you believe it?

Genesis says land animals were created after Adam. do you believe it?


847 posted on 01/31/2005 9:07:22 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey

.schuelers.com/ChaosPsyche/part_1_9.htm

Lord Eddington stated;
If your theory contradicts the Second Law
I can offer you no hope."
]I'll take Eddington over Asimov]


848 posted on 01/31/2005 9:08:25 AM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
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To: metacognative

Your link makes one passing reference to Eddington. For you to imply that Eddington is on your side of false science is totally false.


849 posted on 01/31/2005 9:15:57 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
Why do you believe in space aliens? Possible, yes.

The evidence for the existence of space aliens is about the same as that for evolution.

850 posted on 01/31/2005 9:23:10 AM PST by connectthedots
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To: metacognative
Lord Eddington stated; If your theory contradicts the Second Law I can offer you no hope."

No problem. Evolution does not contradict the Second Law.

851 posted on 01/31/2005 9:23:56 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: metacognative

Since you switch topics, I assume you have no response to my statement and thus agree with it.


852 posted on 01/31/2005 9:26:13 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey

I didn't say Eddington was on that site.
Quit the hysterical panic!


853 posted on 01/31/2005 9:27:00 AM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
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To: connectthedots

You don't believe in ID?


854 posted on 01/31/2005 9:27:31 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey

Have you always been this stupid; or did you work at it?


855 posted on 01/31/2005 9:31:53 AM PST by connectthedots
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To: metacognative
OK. Since you know the 2nd law "perfectly", plese explain where your link obtained the following:

"The general equation for an open system is: dS > dQ/T + dmisi - dmoso

856 posted on 01/31/2005 9:36:24 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: connectthedots
Have you always been this stupid; or did you work at it?

I guess you do believe in ID, after all.

857 posted on 01/31/2005 9:37:38 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: mississippi red-neck

I suspect the Freeper whose screen name is "JS" is a bit surprised at being pinged to this thread.

Abiogenesis is in the hypothesis stage. Whether it happened or not is irrelevant to whether evolution happens.

Science does not speak to miracles because it is impossible to prove that a miracle did not occur.

Suppose people in Washington D.C. wake up one morning to find a 300 foot redwood tree firmly planted in the Mall. A miracle, right? Now suppose you take a core sample of the tree and find it has rings indicating an age of 2000 years. What would this prove or disprove?

My point is that the earth has tree rings, and life has tree rings. Science deals with how things on this earth work; it deals only with the regularities we label natural laws. The evidence that is visible to us indicates an age of the earth in billions of years. The evidence of DNA indicates all life is related by common descent.

The actual history -- whether this history is "real" or whether the miracles are real -- is unimportant to science. But the interpretation of the tree rings is important because it is derived from theories about how things work in the present and how they will work in the future. These theories have consequence in engineering and medicine.

It is irrelevant which interpretation of history is "real", but it is important in our everyday lives to decide which interpretation is based on how ongoing, regular, "natural" processes work.


858 posted on 01/31/2005 9:41:02 AM PST by js1138
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To: JohnnyM; WildTurkey
As I said many posts prior -- I avoid "belief".

No Santa Claus, no Tooth Fairy -- those are both beliefs.

Do you "believe" in that keyboard in front of you? What the heck difference would it make if you did or did not.

The keyboard would still be there. You of course, could ignore it.

Or do you "believe" in good whiskey? The bottle at right hand is still there, "belief" or not.

Now ... if you "believe" the whiskey is a fine lively taste to the palate and warms the gut you will, I'd say and most physiologists too, I'd guesss -- you will actually taste your "belief". Perhaps it is that such "belief" pre-conditions the palate, the gut, the body chemical. Maybe. But this is to say that "belief" can be a great thing in the right context -- to improve the taste of things, to improve the comfort, the enjoyement.

Or reveresed -- a negative "belief" will also color taste and take on things.

860 posted on 01/31/2005 9:41:35 AM PST by bvw
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