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Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

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To: tallhappy; Ichneumon; Aquinasfan; Right Wing Professor
Right now how many genomes are sequenced?

Available online?
FYI, try:
http://www.genomesonline.org/

1340 current Genome Projects
251 complete

601 posted on 01/30/2005 2:27:57 PM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Clearly, evolution having been decisively debunked, we can now start studying real science: Big Daddy?

It would be funny if not for all the false science presented by the YEC's and the fact that people actually believe that nonsense.

I mean saying that we have muscles attached to our tailbone disproves evolution. Like, uh, how does the dog wag its tail if it has not muscles attached to his tailbone.

602 posted on 01/30/2005 2:29:05 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: 2AtHomeMom
n 1913 : any of a large superfamily (Ichneumonoidea) of hymenopterous insects whose larvae are usu. internal parasites of other insect larvae and esp. of caterpillars"

Hmm, since he eats caterpillars maybe he saw all the 'peppered' moths on the trees and got frustrated that the seasoning (pepper) was added too late, i.e. after cocooning and metamorphosis :-)

No wonder there are so many flame wars on these threads, straw men burn easily!

603 posted on 01/30/2005 2:30:10 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: tallhappy
Only the most fervent faithful or person who does not understand the the nature of physical science would equate evolutionary theory as it has been presented and exists today with the hard and mathematically rigourous physical sciences of quantum mechanics.

The origins of quantum mechanics lies with Bohr's hydrogen model. Now, we all know that electrons do not travel in 2-D circles. Evolutionary theory is still incomplete but so were a lot of other "hard" theories such as Newton's law of gravitation.

604 posted on 01/30/2005 2:31:53 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: 2AtHomeMom
As we all know, delta-S = SdQ/T. (S is entropy, SdQ the energy input, T the absolute temperature.)

Crap. We all know no such thing. Whoever wrote this idiocy - and I suspect it wasn't you; you probably cribbed it from some basher web-site - can't even transcribe a formula correctly, let alone understand it.

The equation is dS=dqrev/T. q (lower case) is the reversible heat, not the energy. Unless you specify it's the reversible heat, it's not correct to write it as a differential at all. Heat itself is a path variable.

While you're staying at home, Mom, pick up a chemistry text.

605 posted on 01/30/2005 2:31:55 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Evolve or die!)
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To: js1138
You don't think it's significnt that one of your top sources works for a man who claims to be the second coming of Jesus?

Which one?

606 posted on 01/30/2005 2:32:40 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Ichneumon
Did you miss the post that followed? Anyway, you're entitled to your beliefs.
607 posted on 01/30/2005 2:33:18 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: SpeakingUp
I suspect the purpose of all the responses is to discourage comments. Bye bye and thanks for proving the original post.

No. Mostly I am replying to all the posts made to me since I was last signed on. Just being courteous.

608 posted on 01/30/2005 2:34:25 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: JohnnyM
God told us how He did it in the Bible.

Agreed.

Evolution and the Bible are incompatible.

Says MAN. MAN also said that a sun-centered solar system was incompatible with the Bible.

God tells us things via the brains he gave us which we use to interpret His word and the world He created for us. As someone here pointed out earlier, it would be a perverse God who would leave false evidence to fool us. You can pretend that there is no actual fossil record, but you are only pretending. Or perhaps you think God is perverse? Again, I think you are confusing what MEN say God says in the Bible, with what God actually says in the Bible. Nothing in evolution negates the moral teachings of the Bible. Evolution doesn't challenge the existence of God or the veracity of the Bible; it challenges men.

A wise man's heart inclines him toward the right, but a fool's heart toward the left. -- Eccles. 10:2

God is telling us never to make a left-hand turn? Well ... certainly not on a red light!! ;^)

609 posted on 01/30/2005 2:36:18 PM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Ichneumon

Read "Darwin's Dangerous Idea", it's in there. Creationist parents should be fenced off. Tell me which of Icons you want to defend. Haeckel? Horse evolution? You are reluctant to relate your prize icon of evidence.


610 posted on 01/30/2005 2:36:36 PM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
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To: DoctorMichael

Thanks. I knew I had it about right.


611 posted on 01/30/2005 2:37:15 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Evolve or die!)
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To: WildTurkey

Jonathan Wells was personally commissioned by Rev. Moon to bring down evolution in the schools.

http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience//Coyne-IconsReview.htm

http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience//Coyne-IconsReview.htm

http://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Talks/Wells/0-Toc.htm


612 posted on 01/30/2005 2:40:14 PM PST by js1138
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To: Right Wing Professor

If there are no problems with your belief system, why are you guys so defensive? Physicists have debates without relying on liberal judges to protect preposterous 'facts' like DNA mutations can make a reptile lung into a bird lung.


613 posted on 01/30/2005 2:42:42 PM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
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To: metacognative
metacognitive clamed Dan Dennett (whose name he can't spell) has called for 'creationist concentration camps'. When challenged to present evidence, he said Read "Darwin's Dangerous Idea", it's in there.

Let's have page number and exact quote. Oh, and let me anticipate your failure to do so by calling you a liar right now.

614 posted on 01/30/2005 2:43:00 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Evolve or die!)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Call me names. I just consider the source. I don't have the book at hand. Did you read it?


615 posted on 01/30/2005 2:44:03 PM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
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To: metacognative
f there are no problems with your belief system, why are you guys so defensive?

We're more angry than defensive. When someone tells blatant lies in the name of their religion, as you do, it annoys us.

616 posted on 01/30/2005 2:44:23 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Evolve or die!)
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To: WildTurkey
From Jonathan Wells:

As a graduate student at Yale, I studied the whole of Christian theology but focused my attention on the Darwinian controversies. I wanted to get to the root of the conflict between Darwinian evolution and Christian doctrine. In the course of my research I learned (to my surprise) that biblical chronology played almost no role in the 19th- century controversies, since most theologians had already accepted geological evidence for the age of the earth and re-interpreted the days in Genesis as long periods of time. Instead, the central issue was design. God created the cosmos with a plan in mind. This affirmation is among the most basic in all of Christianity (and other theistic religions as well, including Unificationism). And that plan included human beings as the final outcome of the creative process: we are created in the image of God.

617 posted on 01/30/2005 2:44:30 PM PST by js1138
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To: Right Wing Professor

I'm glad your mad. Maybe you'll try to figure out why someone else's belief sytem upsets your world.


618 posted on 01/30/2005 2:46:27 PM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
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To: metacognative
I don't have the book at hand

You accused a man of calling for concentration camps, and when challenged, you won't even attempt to stand behind your words. How contemptible!

619 posted on 01/30/2005 2:46:29 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Evolve or die!)
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To: 2AtHomeMom
As we all know, delta-S = SdQ/T. (S is entropy, SdQ the energy input, T the absolute temperature.) On inspection, change of entropy is always nonnegative;

Your equation is for reversible processes where the net entropy is ZERO. Let me quote from a reputable science text for that situation:

"The interpretation of entropy as a measure of the capacity of a system for doing work is consistent with the result that the change in entropy is zero for a reversible cycle, for a system carried through such a cycle loses no capacity for work"

BTW, which YEC website did you get that "T the absolute temperature" quote from?

620 posted on 01/30/2005 2:47:11 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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