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crosswalk ^ | 2004 | creationist

Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

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To: bvw
Why are there no plants as evolved as animals -- able to walk, fly, swim? Clearly in animalia such abilities are advantageous?

Anyone that thinks plants haven't successfully evolved the ability to survive is nuts!

Can humans "suck" nutrients out of the soil?

How many days a year do humans work just to prevent the spread of weeds!

Plants can go dormant during cold seasons. Can humans?

1,401 posted on 02/02/2005 7:46:30 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: MarIboro
Why cant you and the other assorted evolution supporting folk just admit that you have no more concrete proof of evolution than the ID people do for their beliefs?

Science doesn't really deal with "concrete proof", it deals with "evidence". We've seen the evidence for evolution in this thread, what evidence for ID have you seen presented?

1,402 posted on 02/02/2005 7:47:17 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta
Another way to look at this fallacy is to look at each person's life.

That's "retrospective astonishment."

1,403 posted on 02/02/2005 7:49:20 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: MarIboro
You remind me of a fellow on FR who called himself whiskypapa....

Oh, yeah? That's funny, because ol' Walt got his ticket punched some time ago - his last post was seven months before you signed up. So what was your handle before you got booted?

1,404 posted on 02/02/2005 7:52:29 AM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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To: general_re; longshadow

Hee hee.


1,405 posted on 02/02/2005 7:53:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: MarIboro
than the ID people do for their beliefs?

I think we have a little more "proof" for evolution than you do for space aliens. I know, I know, I saw the movie.

1,406 posted on 02/02/2005 7:58:08 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: PatrickHenry

This is like fishing with dynamite - there's just no sport in it ;)


1,407 posted on 02/02/2005 7:58:39 AM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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To: general_re
More like clubbing them over the head after they jump into the boat. But it sure get's boring.

Now here's some real meat and potatoes ...


1,408 posted on 02/02/2005 8:04:00 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Science doesn't really deal with "concrete proof", it deals with "evidence". We've seen the evidence for evolution in this thread, what evidence for ID have you seen presented?

Let me rephrase....All I have seen from the pro evolutionists are hypothesis not yet empirically verified as law but accepted as the basis of experimentation.... The ID folk present the same argument...they accept the hypothesis of ID as the basis of experimentation. In the ID case the experimentation comes in the form of observation that nothing found on this planet creates itself hence there must be a creator. One view has as much validity as the other in my opinion since nither can be emphatically proven nor disproved.

The creationists are honest enough to admit this while the evolutionists are not.

1,409 posted on 02/02/2005 8:05:54 AM PST by MarIboro
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To: js1138; PatrickHenry
I'm math impaired, but it sounds like a variation the coin toss fallacy. You've had five heads in a row. What are the odds of tossing heads again? I think the central misunderstanding is the assumption that we had to get here from there. We are here, but it wasn't foreseen. I think the inventors of ID know this and are consciously and deliberately perpetrating a fraud. What are the odds?

see "Bernoulli Trial"....

1,410 posted on 02/02/2005 8:15:00 AM PST by longshadow
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To: general_re
Oh, yeah? That's funny, because ol' Walt got his ticket punched some time ago - his last post was seven months before you signed up. So what was your handle before you got booted?

You are a regular Sam Spade. Ive been coming to FR for years....that doesn't mean I had to join now does it. But your hypothesis (about me) makes about as much sense as do the ones Ive seen on the evolution side of the debate.

1,411 posted on 02/02/2005 8:15:01 AM PST by MarIboro
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To: MarIboro

LOL. Whatever.


1,412 posted on 02/02/2005 8:15:38 AM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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To: MarIboro
In the ID case the experimentation comes in the form of observation that nothing found on this planet creates itself hence there must be a creator.

That is not an observation. That is a conclusion based on ignorance. Sort of like creationists once observed that the sun and stars went around the earth and thus concluded that the earth was the center of the universe ...

1,413 posted on 02/02/2005 8:15:56 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: MarIboro
The creationists are honest enough to admit this while the evolutionists are not.

Why are the creationists hiding behind "ID". ID allows for evolution, ID allows for space aliens ...

1,414 posted on 02/02/2005 8:17:30 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: js1138
I think the inventors of ID know this and are consciously and deliberately perpetrating a fraud.

Just go to their websites and see all the DVD's and books for sale. Some here have actually admitted to buying the cr@p.

1,415 posted on 02/02/2005 8:19:02 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey

OK WT...enlighten me....what on this planet has ever created itself?


1,416 posted on 02/02/2005 8:21:23 AM PST by MarIboro
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To: MarIboro

New strains of influenza 'create themselves' every year.


1,417 posted on 02/02/2005 8:24:11 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: MarIboro
OK WT...enlighten me....what on this planet has ever created itself?

I'm with you. I think the earth was seed with space aliens who have been gently nuturing the species over the eons.

1,418 posted on 02/02/2005 8:24:18 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
LOL...you are really into this alien thing ....I haven't even mentioned an alien.....whasup? :)
1,419 posted on 02/02/2005 8:26:17 AM PST by MarIboro
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To: MarIboro
All I have seen from the pro evolutionists...

Perhaps you should stop waiting for someone to come educate you and instead take it upon yourself to educate yourself.

1,420 posted on 02/02/2005 8:26:19 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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