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Hands Off SpongeBob!(Reuters more accurate than the NYTIMES)
Toonzone via Instapundit. ^ | 01/21/05 | Maxie Zeus

Posted on 01/22/2005 10:37:46 AM PST by Pikamax

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To: garbanzo
Note that characters like Jimmy Neutron and Clifford the Big Red Dog also appear in the video. Why is it that SpongeBob is getting all the attention?

Because that's the way the NY Times twisted the story. Did you read the article at the top of the page?

61 posted on 01/22/2005 4:02:06 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: nmh
If there is no such thing as INFLUENCING CHILDREN (or adults) by their viewing IMAGES or LISTENING to slogans (or curriculum thats intent is to influence):

Why would there be such an outcry against such IMAGES as JOE CAMEL (eliminated from advertisements after repeated accusations from antismoking advocates and government regulators that the company used Joe Camel, a cartoon character, to attract young smokers)

Why would there be yet another outcry against the MARLBORO MAN (for similar reasons)........

Why would there be SLOGANS like "JUST SAY NO,"

and "JUST DO IT"

Why would there be COMMERCIALS aimed at children for BREAKFAST CEREALS or TOYS (especially at Christmas time) on Saturday mornings?

Because IMAGES and SLOGANS are effective tools in "SELLING IDEAS" and the intended objective is vastly achieved.

62 posted on 01/22/2005 4:10:57 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
"Because IMAGES and SLOGANS are effective tools in "SELLING IDEAS" and the intended objective is vastly achieved."

No argument here.

You're preaching to the choir ;)

But hey, neocons and the left LOVE those images and the neocons simply are too cowardly to take a stance that's righteous.
63 posted on 01/22/2005 4:14:01 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
The indoctrination continues - January 24-28:

No Name Calling Week?

64 posted on 01/22/2005 4:15:12 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: EdReform
EdReform has found the information that seems to answer everyone's questions. See links in reply #57.

There is a lot of reading to do but it supports the idea that the schools are engaging in social engineering that may not be along the lines of something many parents agree with.
65 posted on 01/22/2005 4:32:18 PM PST by spinestein
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To: FreedomCalls

Yes I did. But the AFA article posted on FR a few weeks ago only mentioned SpongeBob and the other cartoon characters in passing. It does seem clear to me that for some odd reason SBSP is being singled out for particular criticism. You can't turn this into a NYT conspiracy - that article from the AFA/worldnetdaily was posted a while ago. In fact, I suspect the NYT picked the story up from here because it wasn't being widely reported except in the fringe-right media.


66 posted on 01/22/2005 4:32:52 PM PST by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: nmh

lol, I know I was singing to the choir....just thought you'd enjoy me "chiming" in! : )


67 posted on 01/22/2005 4:32:54 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Pikamax

Okay, some Freepers owe Dr. Dobson an apology.


68 posted on 01/22/2005 4:35:29 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: nmh

It's a friggin cartoon man..Geeeezz A cartoon ..It's funny , stupid funny as a cartoon should be .There are NO homo hidden messages in it and anyone who see's thatin Spong BoB has a REAL problem . The cartoon itself is innocent ..People are really nuts I swear to God they are.


69 posted on 01/22/2005 4:37:05 PM PST by hineybona
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To: Dysfunctional

there are no gay messages in Spong Bob stop acting like a nut case .


70 posted on 01/22/2005 4:38:55 PM PST by hineybona
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To: hineybona; nmh
The cartoon itself is innocent.

Yes, the Saturday cartoons of Spongebob and other characters are, IN AND OF THEMSELVES, innocent. This is not the point.

The point: the video being sent to 61,000 schools, which happen to have Spongebob (and other characters) IS NOT INNOCENT.

The video has a goal. Along with it specially prepared curriculum, it is USING Spongebob and other innocent characters) as a means to promote certain ideas to children. Those ideas include acceptance of homosexuality as "normal."

Most parents do not believe, and do not want their children being taught that homosexuality is normal.

71 posted on 01/22/2005 4:48:51 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: hineybona; Dysfunctional
there are no gay messages in Spong Bob stop acting like a nut case .

The video that was specially made and being circulated to 61,000 schools is not the Saturday cartoon shows. The video is promoting homosexuality and it is USING Spongebob, other characters, and curriculum to promote that message.

72 posted on 01/22/2005 4:51:58 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: DaveDCMetro; tutstar
What I do know is that, regardless of any culture war that may exist between Red and Blue America, SpongeBob is not a player in this conflict. Dobson's demagoguery is good, old-fashioned propaganda that follows a formula that's as old as time.

Whether you agree with or against Dobson, the simple truth is that the homosexuals have made Spongebob and the others, players in this field. They have used these cartoons to promote their agenda.

I have seen all the SpongeBob shows. I have yet to see anything in it to promote religion of any kind, so why do we have to have the homosexuals add their agenda to it or anyone else's for that matter. What kind of media outcry do you think there would have been if God had been made part of the cartoon?

Once the door was opened (by the homosexuals) it became open for debate. No one would have heard a word from Dobson, if they had just left the cartoon where is was, on the television.

This attack has all the makings of demagoguery at its finest. It plays on the fears of rural conservatives of those "evil" gays in big blue cities.

In case you haven't noticed, homosexual activity (not the person) is "Evil" to most of those in the red cities. Why do you think there is a culture war between red and blue America?

73 posted on 01/22/2005 4:54:00 PM PST by Nightshift (Ignorance on your part, doesn't require a reply on my part.)
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To: annyokie; Pikamax; The Ghost of FReepers Past

It's a cartoon.


Perhaps you missed Hanity and Colmes last night - Dr Dobson was a guest on the show and adamantly reiterated his position, as was posted by Pikamax in reply 1:

From the outset, let's be clear that this issue is not about objections to any specific cartoon characters. Instead, Dr. Dobson is concerned that these popular animated personalities are being exploited by an organization that's determined to promote the acceptance of homosexuality among our nation's youth.


The complaint is NOT about the cartoon characters. If the video We Are Family were not being accompanied by extensive curricular supplements, there would be no complaints. However, all of the major homosexual organizations have signed on to support this video and assist with the development of the cirricular materials, as documented here, here and here. These organizations have no business being involved with programs in the public schools in any way.



I never saw anyone getting their knickers in a twist about a cross-dressing Bugs bunny.


Because a cross-dressing Bugs Bunny was an absuridty. It was outlandish and therefore funny. At that time, you didn't have organizations such as GLSEN, the NEA, and PFLAG in the public schools celebrating cross-dressing and promoting it as normal. It's a different story today. For example:

An excerpt from "Queering the Schools"

"... Two videos come particularly highly rated by gay activists and educators as tools for making primary school queer-friendly. Both films strive to present homosexuality in a favorable light, without saying what it actually is. It’s Elementary, intended for parents, educators, and policymakers, shows how classroom teachers can lead kindergartners through carefully circumscribed discussions of the evils of prejudice, portrayed as visited to an unusual degree on gays and lesbians. In That’s a Family, designed for classroom use, children speak directly into the camera, explaining to other kids how having gay and lesbian parents is no different from, for example, having parents of different national backgrounds.

GLSEN even provides lesson plans for the promotion of cross-dressing in elementary school classes. A school resource book containing such lesson plans, Cootie Shots: Theatrical Inoculations Against Bigotry for Kids, Parents, and Teachers, has already been used in second-grade classrooms in California. A children’s play in the book features a little boy singing of the exhilaration of striding about “In Mommy’s High Heels,” in angry defiance of the criticism of his intolerant peers:

They are the swine, I am the pearl. . . .
They’ll be beheaded when I’m queen!
When I rule the world! When I rule the world!
When I rule the world in my mommy’s high heels! ..."


An excerpt from "Targeting Children - Part two: How the homosexual movement uses public schools as instruments of change"

"GLSEN activist and New York kindergarten teacher Jaki Williams said starting in kindergarten is a must, since children at that age are still developing their ideas about the world around them. Even at that age, she said, “the saturation process needs to begin.”

Williams, in fact, is a model teacher when it comes to this “saturation” process. She regularly initiates conversations with her children by reading to them such controversial books as Heather Has Two Mommies, Daddy’s Roommate, and One Dad, Two Dads, Browns Dads, Blue Dads. She also hosts a viewing of the video Both of My Moms’ Names Are Judy: Children of Lesbians and Gays Speak Out, produced by a San Francisco pro-homosexual advocacy group.

According to one writer for The Lambda Report, who infiltrated a 1997 GLSEN workshop, one former teacher admitted that changing the mind of a child required more than a one-time effort. She said she had to expose her children to a constant stream of homosexual words and images, because "It’s really a conditioning process."




See also:

Human Rights Campaign Foundation invades saturday morning cartoons (My title)

Queering Elementary Education

74 posted on 01/22/2005 5:02:01 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: nicmarlo; annyokie; hineybona; spinestein

Precisely! See reply 74.


75 posted on 01/22/2005 5:06:18 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: FreedomCalls

I was replying more to some of the responses than the actual article. I saved criticism of Dobson for my subsequent post.


76 posted on 01/22/2005 5:12:47 PM PST by DaveDCMetro
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To: EdReform

Nice posts Ed.


77 posted on 01/22/2005 5:15:07 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Nightshift

So you're going to punish SpongeBob because of gay activists? Um, how about going after the gay activists themselves. From what I've read, SpongeBob does not in any way advance their agenda. Even the elementary school film isn't doing that. So what gives?


78 posted on 01/22/2005 5:15:17 PM PST by DaveDCMetro
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To: annyokie
I think what the profeesor is saying, whether it be public or private, if you don't like whats being taught, then send them elsewhere, just as you did when you sent your children to public school instead of keeping them in the lesser private parochial schools.

profeesor, did I get what you were saying right?

79 posted on 01/22/2005 5:17:07 PM PST by Nightshift (Ignorance on your part, doesn't require a reply on my part.)
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To: DaveDCMetro


You are correct that SpongeBob does not advance their agenda, so why even use him in the film? Why could they not just come up with their own cartoon character. Have you tried to explain sexual orientation to a 1st grader?


80 posted on 01/22/2005 5:23:34 PM PST by Nightshift (Ignorance on your part, doesn't require a reply on my part.)
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