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To: NJ Neocon
The confederacy was never a legitimate country. Their secession was illegal. They lost war. It was a Civil War. The definition you use proves it.

BS. The states were legitimate, independent entitites, recognized by Great Britain and the world. They joined and left two governments independently and unilaterally. Justice Grier did not rule their secession illegal as I documented, and that decision also notes that numerous nations recognized the independence of the Confederate states when 'the Queen of England issued her proclamation of neutrality, "recognizing hostilities as existing between the Government of the United States of America and certain States styling themselves the Confederate States of America." This was immediately followed by similar declarations or silent acquiescence by other nations."

If it was, as you claim, a civil war, you must PROVE that the confederacy did NOT have a government which conducted the war.

Hint: I'll make this VERY easy. Justice Robert C. Grier, speaking for the court, refers to the 'organization of a government by the seceding States'.

539 posted on 01/24/2005 8:08:21 AM PST by 4CJ (Laissez les bon FReeps rouler - Quo Gladius de Veritas - Deo vindice!)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
BS. The states were legitimate, independent entitites, recognized by Great Britain and the world.

LOL! The only BS is that comment. The British NEVER recognized the Confederacy. NO country did.

They joined and left two governments independently and unilaterally. Justice Grier did not rule their secession illegal as I documented, and that decision also notes that numerous nations recognized the independence of the Confederate states when 'the Queen of England issued her proclamation of neutrality, "recognizing hostilities as existing between the Government of the United States of America and certain States styling themselves the Confederate States of America."

Thus, contradicting your own "BS" in the same post.

If it was, as you claim, a civil war, you must PROVE that the confederacy did NOT have a government which conducted the war.

No...you must prove that Government was legitimate. States have governments as well. So do counties. If the County of New York tried to secede that would find it very difficult to do this. If Georgia has right to leave the United States, what is stopping every county and city from leaving Georgia?

Hint: I'll make this VERY easy. Justice Robert C. Grier, speaking for the court, refers to the 'organization of a government by the seceding States'. 539

Hint, organizing of a government means nothing. The Irish Republican Army had a provisional government too.

I'll give you a second hint - The opinions of Justices are constantly overturned by other justices. It is your OPINIO (along with many who think like you) that the south had the right to secede. It is my opinion (along with many who think like me) that they did not. Both side have itlelectual arguments, both sides quote law, lawyers, judges. In the end, the argument was closed at Appomattox. You can argue the point all day, but it does not change the fact that the South was crushed in its attempt to secede and the United States of America was preserved (Glory Hallelujah!). God's will be done.

541 posted on 01/24/2005 8:35:26 AM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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