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To: melbell
Luke 22:19-20 CLEARLY defines his body and his blood.

Doesn't contradict what he said, and what the Apostles taught, which is what Christians do. The Bible was written by men from the Early Church as a reference. To understand the teachings, those same men wrote each other letters, wrote out lectures, and even preached with a scribe writing them down in Greek, the trade tongue of the time. Many of these writings are in the Bible as inspired. Many writings also exists that make it clear what they wrote out in the inspired writings.

Those writings are available to anyone who wishes to see them, even you. You would know the Apostles taught that the bread of the altar becomes the Lords Body, in a real way. Not symbolic.

I sought to assist you in you "distress" I see you now only seek to bash the Church, without understanding the teachings of it.

The dead in Heaven pray, and offer prayer to God unceasingly. You mean you couldn't find that in the Bible? What do you think they were doing when they said, "Holy Holy Holy Lord..."

Your lack of actual scholarship, instead of looking for yourself what the Church teaches is a problem for you. That is the real tragedy, and that leads to actual Heresy. One is thinking the only way Christ could offer his body for us to eat is by actually breaking off his arm.

He is God you know. Oh wait, Trinity isn't in the Bible, is it...
133 posted on 01/14/2005 7:00:59 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Dominick

you are right, I am uninformed about your beliefs...you, however, have some magic ability to know that I don't believe in the Trinity...which I do...

I am deeply sorry that I am unable to communicate the truth to you. I have a lack of knowledge on many things, and I just wish that someone more knowledgeable about the Bible and about Catholicism would speak out. You will probably say that the reason someone more knowledgeable does not speak out, is that they know I am wrong, and Karol is right, and we are supposed to pray to Mary, because she can tell God what to do and assure that they get out of purgatory faster. I cringe each time a catholic refers to catholicism as THE CHURCH, as much as I cringe when a homosexual says they are a Christian. I have about as much luck convincing them otherwise as I have you. This is clearly not one of my gifts. I'm sorry that I failed. But I'm not sorry to you, or to Mary. I am sorry to God. He's the one that matters, and He knows my heart. And He knows what I want to say, and He has not chosen to give me those words. I will defer to His judgement and just shut up. But I will not stop praying for your soul.


137 posted on 01/14/2005 7:09:09 AM PST by melbell (There are 10 types of people in the world...those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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