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Lawyer: Bible Led Mom to Sever Baby's Arms
Guardian ^ | December 14, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/14/2004 4:45:48 PM PST by yonif

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To: Prime Choice

If the woman were a Muslim, would you be as swift to argue that she was merely using the Koran as an excuse?


21 posted on 12/14/2004 5:14:41 PM PST by RightWingAtheist (Marxism-the creationism of the left)
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To: ladyinred

I looked at your pic and you are a very pretty ladyinred. However I don't think you understand too much about mental illness. My mother was chronic paranoid-schizophrenic since I was 12 years old. The Bible and her hatred of my father and sex was the most salient symptom of her illness. As I majored in psychology I was priveliged to tour our state mental hospital many years ago. Many of the patients there had symptoms that vested in religion and the Bible. This is not unusual and the twisted association is very real. My mother died two years ago from colon cancer in the nursing home where she was given Haldol to treat her schizophrenia. Only then for the first time since I was a child did my mother tell me she loved me.
This poor woman was obviously insane and it's too bad she never got help before she murdered her child. You have to understand that these people see and hear voices and sometimes they really think God is giving them instructions to do horrible acts. The attorney had nothing to do with her present state of clarity.
My brother and I took legal custody of my mother after Daddy had a stroke. Her guardian ad litem called me and said he had talked to my mother and she seemed fine and capable to him. He suggested a psychological exam and I said please do. When we went before the magistrate the lawyer told the judge he would not oppose the guardian request. Seven pages from the doctor made him understand the depth of Mama's illness.
But you see, as much of a pain as it was Mama always had us to look after her.


22 posted on 12/14/2004 5:16:43 PM PST by fuzzycat
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To: af_vet_1981
I do not accept insanity as a defense for anything.

Well, I can understand why being insane would cause you to do dopey things. It shouldn’t be a defense that protects you from punishment though.

Rather than “not guilty by reason of insanity,” it should be something like “guilty AND insane” or “guilty due to insanity.”

Something like that. I realize that I’m pissing into a 50 mph headwind regarding such things though…

23 posted on 12/14/2004 5:18:13 PM PST by Who dat?
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To: af_vet_1981

I hope some member of your family never suffers from mental illness.


24 posted on 12/14/2004 5:18:19 PM PST by fuzzycat
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To: jakkknife

Satan didn't lead the woman to do this. Her broken mind did it.


25 posted on 12/14/2004 5:19:36 PM PST by fuzzycat
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To: Cornpone

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Christ was talking about one's personal battle with sin...
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Funny, Muslims say the same thing about Jihad, yet "Christians" here call them liars.


26 posted on 12/14/2004 5:20:13 PM PST by frgoff
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To: fuzzycat
I hope some member of your family never suffers from mental illness.

I hope some member of your family doesn't maim or murder the children.

27 posted on 12/14/2004 5:20:14 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: yonif

I heard on the news a short time ago that Andrea Yates who drowned her five children in TX, filed today for a new trial. Seems she is better already.


28 posted on 12/14/2004 5:22:29 PM PST by Hattie
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To: yonif; All
A plain reading of the text indicates that it is better for YOU to mutilate YOURSELF of your own accord than to be cast into hell, indicating the severity of eternal hell compared to temporal suffering.

There is a deeper meaning here, since sin originates in the heart, which cannot be cut out.

Nonetheless, the passage indicates nothing about doing so to someone else. Weak - very weak.
29 posted on 12/14/2004 5:24:51 PM PST by Jeff Blogworthy
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To: af_vet_1981

All my family is dead including my very mentally ill mother. Walk a mile in my shoes before you spout off about something you know nothing of.


30 posted on 12/14/2004 5:24:52 PM PST by fuzzycat
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To: fuzzycat
Her broken mind did it.

I don't buy the insanity plea.

31 posted on 12/14/2004 5:26:05 PM PST by Jackknife (.......Land of the Free,because of the Brave.)
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To: PistolPaknMama
I don't remember the last time I heard "the Bible made me do it" defense.

"The Devil made me buy this dress."

32 posted on 12/14/2004 5:27:35 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Who dat?

No, you are not pissing in the wind. Someone who is insane and commits any violent act should be kept away from the rest of us who are supposedly normal. But you see, the bed wetters won't let you do that. We used to put them away in hospitals for their own safe keeping and ours. But that all changed back in the seventies. Oh well.


33 posted on 12/14/2004 5:28:33 PM PST by fuzzycat
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To: yonif

Pastor Decried After Child's Arms Severed

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1295086/posts


34 posted on 12/14/2004 5:32:40 PM PST by woofie
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To: Prime Choice
She's just using the Bible as an excuse

The lawyer is just as bad as the pitiful excuse for a human for repeating the lie.

If the ABA were a responsible organization, it would disbar any attorney for repeating or using such lies in the defense of a client. But, to my knowledge, no reasonable individua has called the ABA a responsible organization in the last few decades.

35 posted on 12/14/2004 5:33:01 PM PST by LoneSome Journey
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To: jakkknife

Poor jakknife, you have never been around the mentally ill have you ? I spent 43 of my 57 years with a mentally ill mother. What don't you buy ? Would a sane person do that ? Hell no they wouldn't. But I agree it should not be a defense that allowed the person to ever see the outside world again.


36 posted on 12/14/2004 5:33:13 PM PST by fuzzycat
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To: yonif
They should put that b1#%hes execution on pay-per-view. I know I would pay whatever the price to watch it!
37 posted on 12/14/2004 5:35:31 PM PST by KoRn
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To: fuzzycat

Please check out the link in #34 Im curious what you think


38 posted on 12/14/2004 5:35:49 PM PST by woofie
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To: woofie

"I'm an apostle and I'm a prophet,"
Yeah, and I'm Howard Hughes. Insanity personified.


39 posted on 12/14/2004 5:38:54 PM PST by fuzzycat
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To: fuzzycat
All my family is dead including my very mentally ill mother. Walk a mile in my shoes before you spout off about something you know nothing of.

Your shoes don't fit.

Mental illness is no excuse for avoiding punishment that fits the crime. Adults who murder children should be executed. There is absolutely no excuse for you to come to the defense of this perp.

Or as a fictional character would say to the woman:
"You're an adult. Your victims are children. There's nothing you could say to make me feel sorry for you."

40 posted on 12/14/2004 5:39:27 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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