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PALS PORTRAY LACI'S KILLER AS ST. SCOTT
New York Post ^ | 12/03/04 | HOWARD BREUER

Posted on 12/03/2004 12:33:31 AM PST by kattracks

REDWOOD CITY, Calif. — Scott Peterson's relatives, friends and neighbors yesterday made the convicted wife-slayer out to be the Dalai Lama of San Diego.

Longtime friend Aaron Fritz recalled how Peterson participated in a high-school program in which students visited nursing homes and senior centers, and traveled to Mexico to read to orphans.

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"He's always been a very strong and stable person that I've always looked to as a role model. Sometimes I think about what Scott would do in a certain situation," said Fritz. "He's had a positive impact on everybody he meets."

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Prosecutors held back from asking Fritz whether Peterson, 32, had a positive impact on his pregnant wife, Laci, whom he killed and dumped in the San Francisco Bay on Christmas Eve 2002.

Defense attorneys asked few questions about how Scott Peterson treated people in the months before his arrest. Instead they focused on his life as a child, teen and young adult.

Scott Peterson wept occasionally as his sister-in-law cried throughout her testimony and pleaded for Scott's life. ,p>Jurors, who wept out loud Tuesday during the testimony of Laci's mother Sharon Rocha, seemed dry-eyed and bored by the defense testimony. The judge pulled a tissue from a box, but only used it to clean his desk.


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To: texasbluebell
A picture is worth a thousand words. Maybe the parents just got a word of a book deal. Anyway, I bet you'll see tears when Jackie takes the stand. Nacny G. said she also saw Scott laugh.

Several talking head defense lawyers have stated that there is nothing to cause the verdict to be overturned.

21 posted on 12/03/2004 6:24:59 AM PST by Dante3
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To: j. earl carter

LOL!


22 posted on 12/03/2004 7:54:10 AM PST by Howlin (W, Still the President)
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To: eluminate
He had two or three mistresses amber was the only one who came forward.

I can see how you could think he's innocent; it's a lot easier to decide something like that when you don't have ANY of the facts correct.

23 posted on 12/03/2004 7:56:16 AM PST by Howlin (W, Still the President)
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To: raybbr
Isn't that one of the basic definitions of a psychopath?

It's sure what they said about Ted Bundy.

24 posted on 12/03/2004 7:57:07 AM PST by Howlin (W, Still the President)
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To: kattracks
"He was a really nice guy before he murdered his family".

And the whole thing is nonsense in California. This guy will die of old age in the pen while playing cards and watching TV even if he gets the death penalty.

25 posted on 12/03/2004 7:59:52 AM PST by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.)
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To: eluminate

You are delusional.


26 posted on 12/03/2004 8:00:51 AM PST by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.)
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To: kattracks
The judge pulled a tissue from a box, but only used it to clean his desk.

I love that! Seriously, what is the defense hoping to do here? This just makes Scotty look all the more cold-blooded. How does his sainthood mitigate the heinous deed? Are we to believe that the Saint suffered a momentary lapse in his sainthood when he murdered his wife and unborn child and dumped the bodies in the bay? Other than one slip of the halo, he's nigh unto perfect!

27 posted on 12/03/2004 8:04:05 AM PST by .38sw
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To: eluminate

You have been watching too many reruns of the "Forensic Files".
No physical evidence is needed, it's just easier to convict.
How the hell did murderers get convicted in 1980? Get real.


28 posted on 12/03/2004 8:05:15 AM PST by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.)
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To: DoughtyOne

As the one who always tries to see things from both sides I must say this. IF my brother were convicted of murder it would be very hard for me NOT to beg for his life. Yes, it would be difficult, to say the least, as a pro death penalty person to know that my own brother was sentenced to death. My mother would, more than likely, go to an early grave over something like that. Now, I would NOT lie for him, make excuses for his actions or anything like that. If, in fact, he was guilty of something as heinous as murder, I would be the first one to say that he needed to be punished. I believe in accepting responsibility for what you do. But, as a big sister who grew up protecting him, I would be almost emotionally obligated to ask for mercy upon his life. It would be a very difficult situation and I can sympathize with family members who sometimes are secondary victims of the murderers. Does that make sense? Or does it make me sub human?


29 posted on 12/03/2004 8:13:50 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: eluminate

This guy is pure evil. Maybe someone else out there has, but I have never seen him shed a single tear for Laci and Connor!
How can you be human and not grieve for someone, ESPECIALLY your wife and child being murdered this way? I have cried for people I don't even know! I just cannot fathom his reaction at all....he's beyond sick...he's not human!


30 posted on 12/03/2004 8:15:17 AM PST by derllak
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To: Howlin
It's sure what they said about Ted Bundy.

I'm a tad confused on the difference between the terms "psycopath" and "sociopath." Which one is Scott and Bundy and why? I've heard both terms used about both murderers.

31 posted on 12/03/2004 8:21:41 AM PST by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: eluminate

Hi Janey.


32 posted on 12/03/2004 8:30:16 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Types_with_Fist

DSM-IV & DSM-IV-TR:
Narcissistic Personality Disorder




Individuals with this Cluster B Personality Disorder have an excessive sense of how important they are. They demand and expect to be admired and praised by others and are limited in their capacity to appreciate others' perspectives.

Diagnostic criteria for 301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder
(cautionary statement)
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

(4) requires excessive admiration

(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Reprinted with permission from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fourth Edition. Copyright 1994 American Psychiatric Association



DSM-IV & DSM-IV-TR:
Antisocial Personality Disorder (Sociopath)




Individuals with this Cluster B Personality Disorder in their actions regularly disregard and violate the rights of others. These behaviors may be aggressive or destructive and may involve breaking laws or rules, deceit or theft.

Diagnostic criteria for 301.7 Antisocial Personality Disorder
(cautionary statement)
A. There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:

(1) failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
(2) deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
(3) impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
(4) irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
(5) reckless disregard for safety of self or others
(6) consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations
(7) lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

B. The individual is at least age 18 years.

C. There is evidence of Conduct Disorder with onset before age 15 years.

D. The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of Schizophrenia or a Manic Episode.

Reprinted with permission from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fourth Edition. Copyright 1994 American Psychiatric Association


BehaveNet® Clinical Capsule™:
mental disorder: psychopath





In general use today this vaguely defined term probably most often refers to an individual with the more clearly defined antisocial personality disorder.




****Looks like today that are about the same!


33 posted on 12/03/2004 8:32:03 AM PST by Howlin (W, Still the President)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Antisocial personality disorder

From Wikipedia

(Redirected from Sociopath)

Antisocial personality disorder (APD) is a personality disorder which is characterised by antisocial and impulsive behaviour. APD is generally considered to be the same as, or similar to, the disorder that was previously known as psychopathic or sociopathic personality disorder. Approximately 3% of men and 1% of women have some form of antisocial personality disorder (source: DSM-IV).

Although criminal activity is not a necessary requirement for the diagnosis, these individuals often encounter legal difficulties due to their disregard for societal standards and the rights of others. Therefore, many of these individuals can be found in prisons. However, it should be noted that criminal activity does not automatically warrant a diagnosis of APD, nor does a diagnosis of APD imply that a person is a criminal. It is hypothesized that many high achievers exhibit APD characteristics.

Research has shown that individuals with APD are indifferent to the threat of physical pain, and show no indications of fear when so threatened; this may explain their apparent disregard for the consequences of their actions, and their lack of empathy for the suffering of others.

The recent, controversial science of sociobiology attempts to explain animal and human behavior and social structures, largely in terms of evolutionarily stable strategies. For example, in one well-known 1995 paper by Linda Mealey, chronic antisocial/criminal behavior is explained as a combination of two such strategies.


34 posted on 12/03/2004 8:34:33 AM PST by Howlin (W, Still the President)
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To: eluminate

Scott!?! That you?


35 posted on 12/03/2004 8:37:17 AM PST by najida (Aunt to The Cutest Baby Girl in the World! (Come on and name her already Bro!))
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To: PleaseNoMore
If I had a family member who killed the way Scott killed, I would certainly not get up and cry and go on about what a great guy he wasy. I would feel a lot of anger at my family member, that he cause so much pain and evil upon so many people. I could not stand in the same room with the person, it would make me sick.

If my parents were suffering, again the blame goes squarely on the murderer and I would do all I could to comfort and love my innocent parents, but I would NOT get on the stand and cry for the murderer, sorry, does that make me sub-human?

36 posted on 12/03/2004 9:03:18 AM PST by Wonderama ("America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy"....John Updike)
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To: Wonderama

I could cry for the great person that he WAS but not the man he had become. No, your answer doesn't make you subhuman any more than mine makes me such. I think we all would react in our own way.


37 posted on 12/03/2004 9:18:20 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

Now that's an angle I hadn't considered the U.N. corrupt enough to become involved in. Obviously a character flaw on my part. LOL


38 posted on 12/03/2004 9:46:24 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Keisha

There's no denying that this situation is distrubing to just about everyone. I understand your thoughts on this.


39 posted on 12/03/2004 9:48:00 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Protagoras; eluminate

The notion that you need physicial evidence to convict someone has been called "CSI syndrome". Circumstantial evidence is just that - evidence. There are lots of criminals in prison today put there because of circumstantial evidence. You don't always have an eye witness, a smoking gun, a bloody knife, fingerprints and videotape. If you have a trail of circumstances that add up to overwhelming point to one person, then that person will be hearing the prison doors clang shut behind him.


40 posted on 12/03/2004 9:53:43 AM PST by .38sw
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