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To: Cyclone59
I like the Osprey. My main point against the F-22 are it cost too much, it will be obsolete before we use it, the money saved can be put to better use.
116 posted on 11/25/2004 7:27:11 PM PST by Haro_546 (Christian Zionist)
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To: Haro_546
My main point against the F-22 are it cost too much, it will be obsolete before we use it, the money saved can be put to better use

That's exactly how President Reagan drove the Soviets into bankruptcy.

Hope the yen does as well as the ruble...

/john

125 posted on 11/25/2004 7:31:31 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: Haro_546

How can you possibly like an aircraft that has killed more of our solders before it even gets produced than the F22?

I, along with many others, are questioning your rationale.

F22's are vital to the mission and you need to read the other posts. The F22 is part of a team that feeds off one another and is not as effecient alone.

Besides those are ESTIMATED costs and don't get sucked into the $900 hammer arguement. Once these birds are in full production and more models start emerging the cost is greatly reduced. The last model that does everything under the sun is less expesive than the first one ever built that barely flies.


131 posted on 11/25/2004 7:35:06 PM PST by Cyclone59 (is your glass half full, half empty or a vast misallocation of resources?)
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To: Haro_546
Oh, and I forgot to mention in my other post..... You have to spend money to defend against it.... Regardless of how good or bad it is.

And the B-52s keep on flying...

/john

134 posted on 11/25/2004 7:37:36 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: Haro_546
Well I'm still trying to learn. Looks like the process is well under way and at least it is not being cancelled in total as you suggest it should...... bona fides?

Friday November 26, 2004
Lockheed Martin landed a $2 billion Pentagon contract to build 22 more F/A-22 Raptor fighter jets for the Air Force, the Department of Defense said Thursday.
Lockheed Martin lands $2B order for F/A-22 fighter jets

Lockheed Martin landed a $2 billion Pentagon contract to build 22 more F/A-22 Raptor fighter jets for the Air Force, the Department of Defense said Thursday. The contract "definitizes" terms of an agreement struck in May between Lockheed Martin (LMT) and the Defense Department to build the aircraft - referred to as Lot 4 - at a fixed price, with delivery slated for October, 2006.

Excluding test planes, the order brings to 45 the number of F/A-22s already built or under assembly for the military.

The F/A-22 program aims to replace the F-15 as the nation´s premier air-to-air fighter aircraft. Initially, the program called for 339 of the planes, produced at a rate of 36 a year by 2013.

But the program has been scaled back to about 220 aircraft amid budget concerns and growing sentiment in Washington that current global security risks no longer merit maintaining such costly fleets of fighter planes as they did during the Cold War era.

The first squadron of fully operational F/A-22s is scheduled to be in place by late 2005.


142 posted on 11/25/2004 7:40:55 PM PST by deport (I've done a lot things.... seen a lot of things..... Most of which I don't remember.)
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To: Haro_546

You have it exactly backwards.

The F22 should continue. The Osprey should be dumped.


237 posted on 11/25/2004 8:18:46 PM PST by 2111USMC
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