[Cyclone59]

The far superior bird is in a hanger somewhere - the F23's the McDonnell built we far more agile, faster, production ready and NEVER DETECTED ON RADAR during the testing phases of the contract.

My big pork project that I'd like to see cancelled is that Osprey, sorry Marines, but that thing is, and has been, a nightmare waiting to happen. I understand the need, but we've got to figure out a better way to get you what you need.

[Haro_546]

I like the Osprey. My main point against the F-22 are it cost too much, it will be obsolete before we use it, the money saved can be put to better use.