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BREAKING: Powell: U.S. 'Cannot Accept Result' of Ukraine Election
Fox News ^ | November 24, 2004

Posted on 11/24/2004 10:09:53 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

Powell: U.S. 'Cannot Accept Result' of Ukraine Election

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; powell; ukraine
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To: Check_Your_Premises
The number one expansionists here is the EU and Soros, who own the opposition. The Russians did not oppress the Ukraine. What the Soviets did they did to everyone. Russians come from Ukraine which was not Ukraine but the center (Kiev) of the Kieven Russ empire. West to Krakow east to Moscow north to Novograd, south to the Greek city of Dnepipetrovsk and Odessa was also a greek city. Most of the Ukrainian cities were built by the Tsars and the Cossaks were runaway Russian and Polish serfs and debtors.

Kiev was even rebuilt by the Tsars.

141 posted on 11/24/2004 11:24:42 AM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: FairOpinion

If Yuschenko is Soros' puppet, why is Bush supporting him over Putin's child rapist buddy?


142 posted on 11/24/2004 11:24:55 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: DoughtyOne
It will do nothing but encourage the Ukranians to stand up to Russia, which they cannot do.

I doubt that these Ukranian campers seek placing carnations in riot shields need diplomatic hope to confirm their resistance.

143 posted on 11/24/2004 11:25:07 AM PST by cornelis
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To: FairOpinion

don't believe it.


144 posted on 11/24/2004 11:25:51 AM PST by notigar
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To: Agog
Iraq since they helped Sadam hide his WMDs

Thank you for the John Kerry line. To bad Bush & DoD disproved that little lie a month ago. You didn't get the memo?

145 posted on 11/24/2004 11:26:24 AM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: FairOpinion
try this for a look at some of the players in this game.
146 posted on 11/24/2004 11:26:31 AM PST by MarMema
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To: West Coast Conservative
Ukraine Opposition Leader Calls for Strike

By JIM HEINTZ, Associated Press Writer

KIEV, Ukraine - Election officials declared Wednesday that the Kremlin-backed prime minister won Ukraine's bitterly disputed presidential runoff balloting, prompting opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko to call for a nationwide strike to protest what his camp contends was brazen vote fraud.

Meanwhile, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) said Wednesday the United States does not consider the results of the elections to be legitimate. He challenged leaders of the former Soviet bloc nation "to decide whether they are on the side of democracy or not."

"If the Ukrainian government does not act immediately and responsibly there will be consequences for our relationship, for Ukraine's hopes for a Euro-Atlantic integration and for individuals responsible for perpetrating fraud," Powell said.

The announcement of the victory by Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych raised fears of violence in the capital, where tens of thousands of opposition supporters have rallied for three straight days and riot police guarded key government buildings.

"With this decision, they want to put us on our knees," Yushchenko, a pro-Western reformer, told his followers massed in Independence Square, as the crowd chanted: "Shame! Shame!" "My actions to combat the current regime will be even more consistent and powerful," he pledged.

Yushchenko called for an "all-Ukraine national strike," stopping work at businesses, schools and universities and a stoppage of transport. "Thus, we'll force the authorities to think about what they are doing," he said.

147 posted on 11/24/2004 11:27:45 AM PST by Tarpaulin (Look it up.)
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To: jimbo123

Because GWB doesn't act on frivolous inanities. He acts on the best interests as he sees it of America's national security. Moreover, it's the principled thing to do as well.


148 posted on 11/24/2004 11:28:05 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: California Patriot

Moral Authority, isn't that why we bombed the Serbs for the Kosovo Liberation Army islamics? Yup, something like that.


149 posted on 11/24/2004 11:29:32 AM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: jasoncann

I care.


150 posted on 11/24/2004 11:29:48 AM PST by brothers4thID (I have knocked on door of this man's soul- and found someone home.)
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To: Agog
You are sure a odd one. Never said I like the Putin guy and I don't like Soros guy either. Just like to be here and do what I can to "aggrevate" some of the HARDLINE Ukaine-lovers who post here. Gives them somebody else to attack in their anger at big bad RUSSIA!

By the way, why are YOU so fond of George Soros' man? After all he sure worked-up a mess of people and money to work against my candidate, George Bush.

Ukraine is some sort of "mecca" for some posters here. Makes an ol' Mainer like me think some of those posters are not even Americans.

By the way... how many commies have you killed in your life? Were you in Korea or Nam?

Some of the posters here who are being "accused" of being commies are vets who have actually took arms against REAL commies.

You need to stop calling anybody who does not agree with you a supporter of commies or Russians.

That is not nice and it is not America as I see it.

151 posted on 11/24/2004 11:30:02 AM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: AntiGuv

Bush and his people saw this coming. Thank God they're in charge. I guess Bush finally saw the true character of Pootie-Poot and realized the Russian leadership is not on our side.


152 posted on 11/24/2004 11:30:29 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
But the Putin groupies ignore that fact.

We understand that it holds the same amount of water as the "blood for oil" lies of the liberals here. It is the liberals you are supporting abroad in your posts.

It is the liberal state dept, who also happen to support the chechen "freedom fighters", who are supporting Yuschenko.

A free election is of course, the important issue. So let Soros and Brzezinsky and Halfbright stay home, and let Russia stay home.

The Ukrainian people are being used by everyone as pawns, and being sold more lies than Michael Moore could dream up in his entire life.

153 posted on 11/24/2004 11:31:59 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Moral Hazard
I totally agree.
154 posted on 11/24/2004 11:32:02 AM PST by JimWforBush
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To: MarMema

I'm sort of suprised to this post. I knew a few months ago not to be suprised if the ukranies elect a pro moscow leader.

It easy to jump to voter fraud and intimidation and the what nots. I'm sure that happened on both sides.

The simple fact is russia and the soviet block states have been worse off since the fall of the soviet union. Those that were children then are growing up listening to stories of the "good" ol days where, although they didn't have a choice between bounty toliet paper and brand x toliet paper, they had toliet paper.

The ukranian people elected someone to bring stability back to their country. I seriously doubt that putin had his hands in it.

Just trying to give a different perspective. This wasn't really a big shocker. Those who cared to see it, saw it comming


155 posted on 11/24/2004 11:32:11 AM PST by tfecw
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To: AntiGuv
A hostile Russia in the future with Ukraine could easily rekindle the Cold War in the midst of Europe. A hostile Russia without Ukraine would be hemmed in, and even more so if Belarus is eventually pried from its clutches.

And who is going to hemm in the hostile Fifth Reich EU? If you wish to speak of balances of power, then an equally sized EU and RF is balance. Giving everything to the EU and Soros is stupid. With Ukraine and Belaruss, Russia will be hobbled and eventually absorbed into the EU Super State, then what do you think will happen to the US position in the world? Most Americans don't seem to think this one through. They knee jerk against Russians and for the Germans and French from past realities, but those don't exist any more.

156 posted on 11/24/2004 11:32:55 AM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: California Patriot
"The isolationist, know-nothing quality of some FReep posts about this is disgusting. "

Well can you tell this neocon know-nothing what this is all about in 100 words or less? Start by stating whose side the Muslims and French are on.

157 posted on 11/24/2004 11:33:11 AM PST by bayourod (Don't Mess With West Texas Oil Field Trash)
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To: BJClinton
Thanks for the post.

The crisis in Ukraine also posed a dilemma for the United States. Ukraine has supported the military campaign in Iraq, and contributed 1,600 soldiers to the coalition. Yushchenko had said that if elected, he would withdraw Ukraine's troops.

So the US stands behind the election of someone who wants to abandon support for the Coalition in Iraq?

Sounds like a lose lose situation.

158 posted on 11/24/2004 11:33:14 AM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: MarMema
It is the liberal state dept, who also happen to support the chechen "freedom fighters", who are supporting Yuschenko.

Don't be absurd. There is no chance that the State Dept. would antagonize Russia without direct authorization from the White House, which already issued a statement to the same effect.

159 posted on 11/24/2004 11:33:41 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Redbob
I think we demonstyrated just recently what "exit polls" are worth, right here in this country.

I think you are incorrect. I think we proved what juiced exit polls are worth. You cannot, logically, use one set of exit polls to tarnish all exit polls from now until the end of time. Syllogistically speaking.
160 posted on 11/24/2004 11:34:39 AM PST by gipper81
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