Posted on 11/22/2004 4:26:38 PM PST by absalom01
It's a real treat to make my QUARTERLY trip to the gas station.
You have my permission to drive to American Falls once a week Or for a real treat head on up to Rigby. Anything to give us a little tax money for our state highway.
Hooey. The conversion to hydrogen would produce a net increase in natural gas consumption and pollution.
"The minute this idea came up, Schwarzenegger's response should have been simple:"
There is no way this came up without first being reviewed by the Governator's office. The idea is in the California Performance Review, and has been floating around before that.
This is Arnie's trial balloon. He's kept plausible deniability, but will soon knows a) the sorts of folks who will be fore and against this and b) the intensity of the pro and con.
heh.
Further down the thread, some folks seem to be getting close to invoking rule 308, which is a bit over the top in the present instance.
McClintock has it right -- this is a needlessly intrusive proposal, with all sorts of very dangerous precedents and potential misapplications inherent in it.
It's simply too much information to give to the state, but you can bet that they'll keep coming back to this for the next decade or two.
The price of freedom really is eternal vigilance.
This would seem to be a showstopper arguement, huh? The only fair way to tax people for the gas they use is to...
(wait for it.... wait for it...)
TAX the gas itself!
Yeah! I remember Adraina Giant Turkey!!! Sold off some of the best highway rights of way imaginable! Wish she'da sold the right of way to the "Hydrogen Highway!" Phhht!!!
Oh good lord!!!
Are they telling anyone about the costs of implementing this crazy bs idea? I bet not. Like what is the contraption going to cost and what about the commission they are going to have set up to steal...ur....collect the fees? It's just another ruse to keep that graft money coming in.
Remember, if it weren't for the graft; we wouldn't have to pay high taxes. This is the real problem. Not every little stupid idea they can come up with. The problem is the money they keep stealing from us so they will have to keep coming up with stupid ideas like this.
It just makes me so mad that these thieves are always getting away with stealing our money. It's not just the politicians; it's business as well. Our illustrious thieving leaders along with the greedy politicians.
That's what happen to Eureka. 101 runs on city streets with about 30 stop lights. They had about 70% of the right of way for the first phase and sold it off...
Why are you (and they) so willing to discriminate against commuters who only wish to protect their families from the militant criminality of the MetroSexuals and enjoy the great American freedom of RuralSexual existance???
This whole dumb idea is based on "Rural Cleansing" to reverse "Urban Sprawl" and force us "red zone voters" back into the vermin plagued cities where individualism cannot exist!!!
Arnold should be fired for ever appointing this idiot. He's not fooling anyone... He loves this idea to go along with his other "Rural Cleansing" Sierra-Nevada CONservancy boondogle!!!
And Schwartzie hasn't put a stop to it like many of you all hired him to do! Aren'tcha pist yet??? How long ya gonna keep forgiven him???
What's the difference between tax and spend, or shift and spend or borrow and spend???
as a california native this is the most dumbest idea i have ever head of and if you live in ca. like i do you know once they put a tax in THEY NEVER TAKE IT AWAY. 12 years ago we got a tax for water it was only for a year 12 years later we still get a bill for this tax (this is an additional assessment tax)I GUESS THE DUMB A** IN CA DIDN'T HEAR THE NEWS ON THURSDAY 1 IN4 CA. RESIDENTS ARE LEAVING, UHAUL AND MOVING TRUCKS ARE ALREADY RENTED OUT, THE HARD EARNING MIDDLE CLASS WILL BE NEXT AND HOLLYWIERD AND THE LIBERAL'S IN SAC. CA. WILL WONDER WHERE THE HECK ALL THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM TO PAY THE BILLS I GUESS THEY ALSO, DIDN'T READ THE ARTICLE IN NEWS MAX THAT THE RED STATES LIVE BETTER THAN THE BLUE STATES. WILL ANOTHER REASON ON MY LIST OF REASONS TO LEAVE THIS AWFUL STATE.
I'd like this if it meant dropping the gas tax.
That little cable to the odometer that just fell off I tell ya!
That's exactly right; there is a perception among many motorists that their time isn't worth anything, which explains why people will often drive miles out of their way to save $5 on a specific item in a retail store.
people in Cal and Oregon.....you better start referrending this stupidity out before they really get it rolling.....
what a disgrace to have these people try to do this after all these years of yelling at us to drive less, to buy gas efficent cars, all because of the "environment?
well, we were right about them the whole time....all they really want is to manipulate my money and yours, and their "ideals" are about as solid as Micheal Moore's belly....
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