The truth about marijuana.

Me

[cbkaty]

Well...allow me to boil this down to your digestible level:

Recreational drugs = Bad

Therapeutic drugs = Good

Two (2) separate issues....

1) abuse

2) treatment of illness

Now it's time for you to throw your fit...again....now call me names, make me write bad checks...kick me, hold your breath...kick your dog...but for God's sake do nothing to ease the pain of a loved one....not when the abuse factor is present.... Houston's MD Anderson hospital is filled with suffering cancer victims.... I pray you & your family are never more than visitors at one of these facilities.....

[tacticalogic]

What "reference" would that be? If you mean the Schaefer Report, the Committe recommended de-criminalization, based on their review of the available evidence. It doesn't support the current scheduling. Moreover, the most damning evidence against the WoD is the treatment given the report and it's findings after it was released.

[WildTurkey]

Moreover, the most damning evidence against the WoD is the treatment given the report and it's findings after it was released.

Nevertheless you cannot deny that its recommendations leave the Federal WODs in place.

[WildTurkey]

but for God's sake do nothing to ease the pain of a loved one....

This is not about easing the pain of a loved one. It is all about Soros' campaign to legalize ALL drugs. Medical marijuana just being the camel's nose under the tent (G. Soros).

[tacticalogic]

Nevertheless you cannot deny that its recommendations leave the Federal WODs in place.

Unfortunately, Madison's observations on the Commerce Clause stand in stark contrast to that. Schaefer was charged with investigating the pharmacology and effects of marijuana, not the constitutionality of the CSA.

[expatguy]

It does not make any sense to me that two butt pirates can impale each other in the unholiest of holes in the privacy of their own home, a highschool student can get body piercings and yet someone lighting up a doobie in the privacy of their own home becomes such a taboo.

I dont belive that "liberty" and "freedom" are completely synomonous and therefore could we not say that "liberty" in essence is one being "free from coercion"?

In the privacy of my own home I choose to have two martinis and a Xanax with my double bacon ultimate cheeseburger deluxe.

[april15Bendovr]

If you look at the symptoms of depression.

Depression

* Persistent sad, anxious, or "empty" mood

* Feelings of hopelessness, pessimism

* Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, helplessness

* Loss of interest or pleasure in hobbies and activities that were once enjoyed, including sex

* Decreased energy, fatigue, being "slowed down"

* Difficulty concentrating, remembering, making decisions

* Insomnia, early-morning awakening, or oversleeping

* Appetite and/or weight loss or overeating and weight gain

* Thoughts of death or suicide; suicide attempts

* Restlessness, irritability

* Persistent physical symptoms that do not respond to treatment, such as headaches, digestive disorders, and chronic pain

If you look at the Symptoms of Stress

* moody

* irritability

* depressed anxious

* lack of sense of humor

* abrasive

* hostile

* nervous

* emotional

If you look at the symptoms of Anxiety

* insomnia

* irritability or anger

* inability to concentrate

* fear of madness

* feeling unreal and not in control of your actions (depersonalisation)

These are all symptoms that a large population of our country experiences. I know how the stigma of mental health issues play into people actually getting help when they have these symptoms as issues.

Many people experience these symptoms at a very early age. While some people at a young age have found alcohol and marijuana as a social gig others have discovered a way to self medicate all of the symptoms above.

Many people come from stoic families that believe these symptoms are nothing but a weakness and perpetuate a stigma. I believe understanding these symptoms as a human condition. Understanding that is a strength and I admire people that accept help.

If people wish to escape reality I would like to remind folks its not just for recreational use.

[WildTurkey]

Unfortunately, Madison's observations on the Commerce Clause stand in stark contrast to that. Schaefer was charged with investigating the pharmacology and effects of marijuana, not the constitutionality of the CSA.

Then your reference has nothing to do with the legality of the Federal WOD's and cannot be used as a reference for that.

[humblegunner]

Man, this thread makes me want to fire up a phatty.

[WildTurkey]

It doesn't support the current scheduling.

I didn't see that in the report. Please provide reference.

[Lurking2Long]

Why don't YOU admit that the only reason you want "medical" marijuana legalized is so that, eventually, you hope that ALL marijuana will be legalized.

Talk about using other people's suffering for your own nefarious purposes...

[WildTurkey]

Moreover, the most damning evidence against the WoD is the treatment given the report and it's findings after it was released.

Whatever. We now know that the report does not address the legality of the Federal WOD's and in fact the recommendations leave the Federal WOD's in place. Since they were addressing the efficacy of the existing laws, they must feel the Federal WOD's is effective.

[GLDNGUN]

I won't argue that booze is worse than pot in some respects, and never claimed that booze is more "virtous". My point is that it makes no sense to say "hey, this bad thing is legal, so this bad thing should be legal, too".

[scannell]

It has become clear to me with numerous examples that Long-Term (25-35 yrs) marijuanna use leads to "Bi-Polar" mental illness. I have seen the old hippies that hung on to near daily use of marijuanna since the 60's now in a real fix with this condition in about 80% of the cases. Don't casually disregard this phenomena.

[tacticalogic]

If people wish to escape reality I would like to remind folks its not just for recreational use.

I've seen the arguments that medical use may be OK, but recreational use should be verboten. The implicit assertion is that recreation and medical value are totally unrelated. Yet if you go to the doctor with symptoms of stress he may very well tell you that may you should think about getting a hobby.............

[ThinkDifferent]

I won't argue that booze is worse than pot in some respects, and never claimed that booze is more "virtous". My point is that it makes no sense to say "hey, this bad thing is legal, so this bad thing should be legal, too".

So I assume in your ideal world, alcohol would be illegal?

[GLDNGUN]

Atleast with legaization maybe you could get better control and regulate it so it doesn't end up in the hands of minors......

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The powerful effects of pot use on the inability to reason is amazing! Thank you for the demonstration. :-)

[WildTurkey]

So I assume in your ideal world, alcohol would be illegal?

So I assume in your ideal world, cocaine would be illegal?

[YummiBox]

you're right on with your comments - all of this righteousness irks me off.

On one hand we have some conservatives who claim daily that they want small government and freedom over their lives and on the other hand they shoot themselves in the foot by selectively choosing freedoms for the rest of us.

[cbkaty]

This is not about easing the pain of a loved one. It is all about Soros' campaign to legalize ALL drugs. Medical marijuana just being the camel's nose under the tent (G. Soros

I am adressing the medical use of any and all drugs that reduce the suffering of the dying patient.... Would your allow your hatred of George Soros to stand between you and your ability to ease your dying wife's nausea and pain? To hell with Soros...I can't stand him...but that is a separate issue....