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Read it again FRiend. This entire thread argues for using the process to defend the babies, babies that CANNOT defend themselves. They have no guns, we do. We need to speak up for them. That you read into that ONE post something that wasn't said reveals your agenda. I posted that and the rest of the posts. Three or four posters you select and try to tar everyone with your misrepresentation of what they say.

Now read this exchange:

LOL

No one on this thread who has said that this is a Holocaust(or worse) has been able to merely answer straight out. According to any law in the US, were Jews being dragged off the street and executed we'd be empowered to stop it with lethal force.

So, if this is WORSE(lol) than that, certainly they support killing abortion doctors, nurses, those financing abortions(meaning the fathers or families) Right? Bring the troops home, Fight the war on abortion!

Even where it's illegal, abortion does not go away--fact is, it will likely never go away though we can REDUCE the demand and limit the time frame in which they occur.

93 posted on 11/13/2004 7:43:23 AM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)

Dear Skywalk,

I certainly support the criminalization of committing the crime of abortion. It is murder for hire. Abortionists are serial- and mass-murderers. Although I am reluctant to prescribe the death penalty in general, for these, it is the appropriate punishment. I wholly endorse laws that prescribe, in every case without exception, execution for those who regularly perform abortions.

But there is a difference between public application of law and private action in lieu of law. One is justice, the other is vigilantism. I generally oppose vigilantism. I do believe in trying to change unjust laws, to make them more just. We have a political system that permits this.

Germany under the Nazis did not have such a political system.

To suggest that we pro-lifers, to be consistent, must go out and become vigilantes is to elide over several issues. As long as the potential for peaceful change is available in our country, we may not justly take arms against the law.

There were once laws that, as interpreted, permitted white men to kill black "property," usually with complete impunity. Nonetheless, this horror did not provide license to seek private retribution against the killers, or against those who, in law, protected them.

As long as we have a political system which permits peaceful change, we may not legitimately act as vigilantes, as to do so would be to become revolutionaries. If we were, in large numbers, to resort to violence, it would mean two things: First, that we had rejected the legitimacy of the American state; second, that America would become engaged again in civil war.

Failing to accept the delegitimation of the American state and wishing to avoid civil war do not make pro-lifers inconsistent, only prudent, cautious, and rational. It is not our goal to replace one evil with another.

sitetest

148 posted on 11/13/2004 8:16:18 AM PST by sitetest