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To: sitetest
For the really involved pro-lifers, "welcomed into life" isn't rhetoric. Folks work real hard to take care of women and their children who find themselves in crisis pregnancies.

Yes, that's true, and I think those people don't get enough publicity - for which we can in part thank the MSM. And I don't think those people are anything but loving and compassionate to the young women they are trying to help.

Unfortunately, what most people "see" when they think of pro-lifers - and I'm talking Average Joe and Jane on the street, not FReepers - are judgemental mean people - the "Taliban wing" of Christianity, if you will. And I think we've seen some very good examples of that sort of behavior on this thread even.

I've had discussions with people who "wouldn't have an abortion but don't want to restrict another person's right to do so", who are convinced that those who want to stop abortion wouldn't lift a finger to help a teenager who found herself alone and pregnant, but would instead revile her for the sin that caused her to be in that position - and I know there are "Christians" out there who would behave in just that manner.

But I also suspect that many folks who right now think of themselves as "pro-choice" (but when closely queried reveal that they would prefer restrictions that would effectively ban most abortions) would start to think of themselves as "pro-life."

I think you are probably correct. Of course, I live in the Bible Belt South, and prevailing attitudes here are not necessarily the same as those in the rest of the country, and I can't speak for the rest of the country. Most people I know claim they wouldn't seek abortions themselves, but can see circumstances where other people might.

HOWEVER, they don't think abortion should be used for birth control, or performed after the age of viability (which is getting younger all the time).

Really, Amelia, that train has already left the station. Culture is working against the death-mongers. Science is working against the death-mongers. Popular knowledge and belief are working against the death-mongers.

Yes, again I think you are correct - and in the long run, I think this is more important than law. As I said earlier, there are plenty of things that are illegal, such as drugs, that are still being done. To really end them takes a change in hearts & minds.

1,232 posted on 11/14/2004 8:39:09 AM PST by Amelia
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To: Amelia
I've had discussions with people who "wouldn't have an abortion but don't want to restrict another person's right to do so", who are convinced that those who want to stop abortion wouldn't lift a finger to help a teenager who found herself alone and pregnant, but would instead revile her for the sin that caused her to be in that position - and I know there are "Christians" out there who would behave in just that manner.

I've had many conversations with pro-choicers, and they never ask how much my family gives or donates to charities that help unwed mothers-to-be. They just assume we don't because it fits their argument that we're all repressive, heartless puritans who favor zygotes to real people.

They all make the same standard argument about us. They never ask questions that may contradict that sacred point of theirs.

1,236 posted on 11/14/2004 8:45:38 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Amelia

Dear Amelia,

"Yes, again I think you are correct - and in the long run, I think this is more important than law."

But law is, nonetheless, vitally important. Many, many people, especially in an increasingly secular society, especially when many people have loosened or cut their ties to organized religion, rely on the civil law to teach them what is right and what is wrong.

That may not be a desirable thing, but it is as things are.


sitetest


1,242 posted on 11/14/2004 8:50:44 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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