Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org
PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.
We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.
To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.
And the overriding issue is abortion.
So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.
And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.
If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.
This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.
This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.
This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.
Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.
That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.
Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.
The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.
I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.
Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.
You:"I think most merely take offense at the arguably childish "do it my way or I'll take my ball & go home" attitude expressed in the article this thread is based on."
Nothing remotely childish about it.
It's a warning.
The Republican Party's heart has appeared to be in the right place, which is why a whole pro-life constituency has flocked to it.
The Republican Party has never before been in the position where it could seriously change the terms of Roe v. Wade since Roe v. Wade was issued, 31 years ago.
With this election, it is.
And on election day itself, up steps a powerful Republican who will be the gatekeeper of the judges and says that he'll be shooting down pro-life judges.
The reaction to that is inevitable and sharp: the pro-lifers think they might be betrayed. They think that maybe they've been led along like a pack of chumps for all these years, like the 89% of black voters who vote for the Democrats regardless of the fact that the Democrats control all the cities and all the education systems, and haven't changed a damned thing in favor of their core black constituency.
Pro-lifers are more organized than the Democratic black bloc. They have churches and charities that have worked ceaselessly to push back at Roe, and have been scoring successes. And the pro-life vote is absolutely crucial to the Republican Party.
What Specter did was the equivalent of the Senate Finance Committee Chairman saying that he was going to work to eliminate the Bush tax cuts and reinstate high taxes. Think something like that would anger the Republican base and provoke howls of derision?
Of course it would.
Specter put his foot in it, and declared his intentions.
And that has agitated millions of solid Republicans.
The pro-life voters are worried that the Republicans are going to welch on them, now that the Republicans have to power.
I don't think that the Republicans actually WILL welch on them. I think that Bush is pro-life and meant what he said about judicial nominees.
But the bottom line is that Specter fired a shot at the heart of the pro-life movement, and pro-lifers are doing the Republican Party a SERVICE by firing a shot across the party's bow and warning the party not to forget how committed pro-lifers are, and how important a constituency they are. If the pro-lifers are demoralized, they'll stay home. That will really happen. Specter was demoralizing, and he's no team player. Why spend political capital saving him from suffering the consequences of his own statements? Trent Lott was dumped as Senate Majority Leader for considerably less.
Gloat? You support retaining ABORTION ON DEMAND as the law of the land. You SUPPORT the judicial activism that found a 'penumbra' that justified wiping out EVERY law on the books regarding abortion. You can claim to believe in the principles of "limited government" but your own words make a liar of you.
If only both the dims and the reps would join together and get this non issue out of both party platforms. Then real issues could be dealt with.
"I've seen polls stated in this thread that Americans overwhelmingly support making abortion illegal, but if that were true why don't they vote that way?"
They have. Even in the Demoncrat party, pro-life folks like Reid of Nevada are winning. Sorry you are trapped in urban denial.
Wow, I'm a pejorative now. You gonna try to get me banned too, Narses?
You'll have to get a lot of other people banned too, if you want to enforce your ideological purity.
Then it applies to no one here. Although factually, more than one defender of Roe -v- Wade is here, blood dripping down their forearms.
I am not in favor of abortion, nor am I in favor of the death penalty.
My opinions however, have nothing to do with my statements on this argument or the Constitution.
We want, desire, need judges who are going to support the Constitution as it is written.
They or their opinions not withstanding, and frankly, I do not even want to know about them.
I want to know how they view the damn document and what they will use as a guide for decisions.
Well, first of all, this isn't a Keyes thread.
Secondly, I do believe that Keyes is more interested in raising money from people like you than he is in winning elections or saving babies. I may be wrong, and I hope I am, but that's not the impression I get from him.
I know Keyes' followers think it's awful when people don't admire and revere him, but I've tried really hard to stick to logic and civil debate, without resorting to name-calling and ad hominems. If I've failed, I sincerely apologize.
And spare me the "nuance" about how YOUR side is DIFFERENT, really...
Our military's purpose is the defense of innocent human life...specifically American lives.
What is the actual difference between a terrorist who kills innocent Americans and an abortionist?
I also liked discussing the RKBA, as I am a longtime supporter of the 2nd Amendment and a gun fancier.
Babes in the womb can't defend themselves.
That's your duty, sir.
"I'm just not prolife (as YOU define it)."
How do YOU define it then?
Please cite some data in support of your opinion.
"You gonna try to get me banned too, Narses?"
Like your paranoid misreading of the pro-life posts here on this thread, you read something not said into my posts. Your paranoia is showing.
There is no way a government should be involved in this.
"And you support judicial activism that YOU agree with, as well as tyhe wiping out of laws you find offensive."
Where do I do that? Show me. Or chalk up ANOTHER lie told by you about others you disagree with.
Yes, actually I do agree with that opinion.
That statement reflects current realities and continues to be correct today in a free and democratic Republic.
"We want, desire, need judges who are going to support the Constitution as it is written."
Did Roe - v- Wade do that, in your opinion?
He does that a lot.
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