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1 posted on 11/03/2004 6:23:57 PM PST by M. Peach
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To: M. Peach

I should add that in days of old before the blacks had moved north from the south, northern non-Irish filled cities were Republican.


80 posted on 11/03/2004 6:46:08 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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Self-employed are more likely to be self-starters and are less likely to be on the union or city collective dole. They are also more likely to be republican and they are more likely to be successful as a result.
81 posted on 11/03/2004 6:46:53 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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anonymity in a crowd & acceptance among similar deviants...

the lunatic fringe are the overall minority yet a congregated majority


82 posted on 11/03/2004 6:47:06 PM PST by DBeers
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In psychology there is a principal called "learned helplessness". If you live in an urban area you are more dependent on others for your survival. In many big cities people can't even travel without a bus or a subway. Everything they need for life comes from someone else. They also tend not to own anything of substance like land or a home.
So they are susceptible to people who say they are going to help.
84 posted on 11/03/2004 6:47:25 PM PST by ProudVet77 (W stands for Winner)
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The real questions are:
Why did all the conservatives leave the cities? Simply to get away from the liberals. To get away from their rudeness and taxing government.

And, why didn't the liberals follow them? It is more expensive to live out side the cities, and the parasites cannot follow their hosts easily.


86 posted on 11/03/2004 6:48:17 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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uh, black.


88 posted on 11/03/2004 6:49:50 PM PST by MrChips (ARD)
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Big cities contain the dims base, single women, gays, lesbians, government workers, union workers, blacks, Hispanics, and those on welfare.

No offense is meant here, just answering the question.

89 posted on 11/03/2004 6:49:56 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (I early voted 18 Oct 2004 and took a car full with me.)
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Urban areas are where all the Social Services are centralized......the base of the Democratic (Socialist / Communist) party.


92 posted on 11/03/2004 6:50:24 PM PST by Navydog
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Having lived, for years, in a rural area.....yet worked across the country in urban areas, it is my opinion that it can be summed up in one phrase.

Urban voters suffer from a type of faux-intellectual elitism.

And that translates into a type of "bleeding" for every type of "cause" they can create. They view themselves as "victims" on every level. And thus if THEY are victims, then of course everyone around them in their urban bubble, is a victim too. And if you view yourself as a victim...you want everyone to make it "all better" for you. In order to make it all better for you.....you have to make it "all better" for everyone else.

I see it as a self-perpetuating cycle of mutual victimhood that feeds on itself.


93 posted on 11/03/2004 6:50:49 PM PST by justshe (Become a monthly donor.....eliminate Freepathons!)
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Blue big cities are where most of the parasites live, the ones who live off of the parasitic "hosts" that live out in the red areas.

Put another way, those of us in the red zone are the wagon pullers, and the blue zone denizens are the ones riding in the wagon. Oh yeah, and the guilt ridden 2nd & 3rd generation wagon owners, who are also blue, live in palaces in the blue zone, ruling over their parasite sheep-like subjects.

95 posted on 11/03/2004 6:51:50 PM PST by MCH
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Cities contain greater concentrations of "the entitled" who are bought off by the rats entitlement programs.


96 posted on 11/03/2004 6:51:56 PM PST by 6ppc (Pajamas are for wimps! Freep naked!)
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Urban areas are heavily populated with people trying to get close to the center of government. They want the government to take care of them. Rural areas are populated with people who want to pave their own way, live their own way, worship their own way. They want the government to keep them safe, build some roads and keep their hands out of their pockets.


99 posted on 11/03/2004 6:52:48 PM PST by elizabetty
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Rural = self reliance, individualism, private property, broader experience, common sense

Urban = crowd thinking, gang mentality (us vs. them), survival instincts, community property, fight for yourself because nobody else cares


100 posted on 11/03/2004 6:52:58 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.)
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Rural folks either do live closer to the land or still have a perspective and mentality that comes from living close to the land.

Another way of saying that is--rural people are more likely to be more personally responsible for their choices, actions and associated consequences.

Even research has demonstrated conclusively that when responsibility is diffused, many people become irresponsible. I believe that dependency is also maximized amidst masses of people.

Certainly the DIMRATS are gods of the irresponsible and the dependent.

. . . and those traits are major seduction tools of satan. And satan spawn like Shrillery and SKerry are gifted at using such in the best demonized Machiavellian form.


101 posted on 11/03/2004 6:53:36 PM PST by Quix (PRAY! PRAY! PRAY! PRAY IN THE SPIRIT! SPEAK UP IN WALMART LINES! INFLUENCE ALL YOU CAN FOR GOOD!)
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High concentrations of minorities, colleges with mush headed students, the blatantly liberal teachers, and then there are the unions.


102 posted on 11/03/2004 6:53:41 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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The answer to your son’s question lies in a simple history lesson.

The 19th century brought the shift from an agrarian economy to an industrial economy. In this shift, people massed in cities that provided easy access to labor, skills, resources and markets that drove the industrial economy. The influx of people to cities in search of jobs required the creation of large quantities of new housing. The vast majority of this housing was built at the turn of the last century and used lead-based paint. Quite simply, many children growing up in cities grew up eating lead-based paint when they were teething. Additionally, the industries in the urban centers produced toxic waste and pollution. The combination of lead-based paint, toxic waste and pollution lead to a vast proportion of urban populations being brain damaged.

103 posted on 11/03/2004 6:54:04 PM PST by PattonReincarnated (They say only 10% of Muslims are extremists - that's only 100,000,000+ people)
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The fresh air clears the mind and purifies the soul....a COUNTRY KID!!!!!


104 posted on 11/03/2004 6:55:12 PM PST by winker
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Out in the country, you're more likely to be on your own. That affects your thinking, bringing it into line with the conservative ideals of self-reliance, honesty - a handshake seals the deal - and an additional reliance upon God - there's no one around when the skys turn dark and the winds pick up, forcing one to his knees in prayer. The latter leads to a desire to know God through His Word.

In the city, there are so many people it's easier to hide. Self-reliance and honesty are not required for survival when theft provides a viable alternative. Temptations abound. The very values espoused by the agrarian posit a barrier to such fleshly pleasures. Many of the consequences lead to despair.

God's creation mandate to man was this: be fruitful and multiply, and rule and subdue the earth. Farmers are more in obedience to this command. Moreover, many of the problems that lead to false assumptions of overpopulation (and therefore create false demands for birth control and abortion). Such would not be the case at urban levels in an agrarian society.

105 posted on 11/03/2004 6:55:36 PM PST by Lexinom (Patty Murray: Too extreme for the United States of America)
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There is a lot of "group think" involved here. People are afraid to be different and they think that the most popular view is liberal. I have been traveling through PA and NJ every week since about May and for the few weeks I have worn my Bush-Cheney shirt in the airport. What I see are people who want to talk to me, but most seem afraid. Sometimes, they will only whisper to me. People somehow fear that being Republican is equated to being a bigot or it is something to be ashamed of. In rural areas, frankly, people are not as concerned of what others think of them. They say what they mean and mean what they say. They know if they do not work that day, then they may not be able to provide for their families, and that is what is important. Welfare systems are not part of their thought process.

Another thing is that something like 80% of the US believes in God, but fewer people in high population cities actually attend church, where as in the rural communities it is part of life. Since morals are important to people that attend church more, voting based upon morals becomes relevant, which was shown in this election. A big difference between Bush and Kerry in this election is that Kerry had to prove that he went to church, but Bush did not. It rings hallow to believers if you have to prove to people that you actually go to church.

Another point that I was reminded of just today is that liberals think that rural people are stupid. Yesterday, Juan Williams on Fox said the reason why they could not call NC (my state) was that there has been a recent influx of highly educated people into the state so that skews the predictions…the result was 56/44. Another guy (I heard the sound bite on Rush from Joe something) said that “now that we have fixed slavery, then we should let the south succeeded.” Both of these are insulting, but since the liberals think they are right, then they feel no need to apologize.

Just my two cents…I have a few more if you need them…
106 posted on 11/03/2004 6:55:43 PM PST by jrestrepo
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One factor is narcissism.

It's hard to be a narcissist in a rural area. Sure, there are some, but it's difficult to maintain. The backbone of the economy in rural areas tends to be the land, in one way or another. It may be farming, forestry, mining, or tourism, but the land is generally the commodity that sustains people.

If one has a belief in one's own superiority, it's difficult to work on the land. The land is humbling. A farmer can't say "with my genius, I can insure that this land will have the greatest yield it's ever had!" In general, a farmer has to use time-tested techniques to the best of his ability and hope for the best.

Someone running a resort by a natural wonder can't wake up and say "I'd like to do a deconstructionist theme this week" and hope to attract tourists. The resort owner knows that people are coming primaily to see the natural wonder, and all he can do is cater to their needs as best as possible.

Urban environments have room for narcissism. Perhaps someone wakes up with a belief that their personal vision in art or religion or policy is the best for the world. Because of the increased contact with people, the narcissist can sustain himself by convincing a small percentage of people he meets to buy into his vision.

Now, what does this have to do with politics? Conservativism is repugnant to narcissists. The conservative philosophy does not require an elite group. The emphasis is on the limitations to what humans can do. Experts can't decide prices as well as the marketplace, for example.

Likewise, liberalism attracts narcissism. Liberals believe people can change the world and that "experts" can do things that people can't do on their own.

Thus, narcissistic people tend to seek the cities and those with some humility will tend to seek the country. Millions of people living in the cities once lived in the country, and vice versa.


107 posted on 11/03/2004 6:55:50 PM PST by Our man in washington
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