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How to Oppose Liberal Intolerance
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | August 11, 2004

Posted on 09/17/2004 12:46:39 PM PDT by Zyke

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Interesting read.
1 posted on 09/17/2004 12:46:39 PM PDT by Zyke
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To: Zyke

I saw this. Very interesting, indeed.


2 posted on 09/17/2004 12:51:39 PM PDT by RockinRight (W stands for whoop-a**!!!)
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To: Zyke

Wow, that's a lot of big words.

 

3 posted on 09/17/2004 12:55:02 PM PDT by Fintan (Oh...am I supposed to read the article???)
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To: Zyke
>>>Since people are unequal in their ability to accumulate property, as Hayek argued in the Mirage of Social Justice, equality of results can only be pursued by treating people unequally. This is the origin of the double standard.

Brilliant. I have never read Hayek. I'm going to now.

4 posted on 09/17/2004 12:55:41 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: HardStarboard

I'm so tired of my lefty relatives telling me that since Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, our entire culture is immoral.


5 posted on 09/17/2004 12:58:18 PM PDT by Veritas et equitas ad Votum (If the Constitution "lives and breathes", it dies.)
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To: Veritas et equitas ad Votum

I can top that:

My best frind's stepmother told her that since Republicans won the Governership and Senate seat in MN, and since the Democrat Mayor of St Paul is supporting Bush and since Bush *won* (sic) the 2000 Presidential election

(drumroll)

our entire electoral system is corrupt.


6 posted on 09/17/2004 1:05:32 PM PDT by reformedliberal (When the elites speak their power to our truth, they have given us cause for revolution)
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To: Zyke
Bump. Excellent.

But equality between unequals cannot be just (because it involves the expropriation of the justly earned fruits of more talented labor) and is incompatible with liberty (because it requires force to achieve).

Just one of the golden nuggets within.

7 posted on 09/17/2004 1:08:20 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Zyke
ping for later reading....

Reminds me of Allen Bloom's "Closing of the American Mind"...

8 posted on 09/17/2004 1:13:58 PM PDT by DrDavid (I'd Rather Not)
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To: reformedliberal
our entire electoral system is corrupt.

I thought the same thing when Algore got 94%+ of the votes in Detroit with a 98% turnout of voters.

9 posted on 09/17/2004 1:17:00 PM PDT by DrDavid (I'd Rather Not)
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To: Zyke

BUMP. "a bigot or a cynical political manipulator" that would be me. We must fight against the left and there desire to destroy our country with all of our might.


11 posted on 09/17/2004 1:22:25 PM PDT by gakrak
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To: Zyke

The article doesn't answer the question though, although I think it's over the target. It gave examples of just the sort of answers I hear conservatives give that don't work. What does work?


12 posted on 09/17/2004 1:24:04 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

My answer would be to blatantly assert Western cultural superiority instead of apologizing for it.


13 posted on 09/17/2004 1:25:50 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Zyke
The basic reason for the "liberal" double standard has already been alluded to. It is that today's "liberals" are really leftists who have rejected the older liberal belief in a shared equality of citizens before the law and have embraced the socialist vision of "equality as a fact and equality as a result," as Lyndon Johnson famously put it. Since people are unequal in their ability to accumulate property, as Hayek argued in the Mirage of Social Justice, equality of results can only be pursued by treating people unequally. This is the origin of the double standard.

Bingo. Wish I had seen this first. The blogger Lawrence Auster has talked about the "unprincipled exception" of liberalism. It seems that perhaps that exception is not so unprincipled after all.

14 posted on 09/17/2004 1:48:35 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Ares does not spare the good, but the bad.)
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This is a great evaluation of the left. However, I have a question about one part:

"Modern liberalism is a leftist and nihilistic rebellion against the inherently unequal nature of the human condition. If we conservatives named this ideology for what it is, we would have a fair chance to defeat it or at least stem its advance."

The writer obviously acknowledges that the term "liberal" has been twisted from it's original meaning, but is he suggesting that a winning strategy includes redefining "liberal" into it's original meaning? If so, I think it's the wrong approach. The term "liberal" changed during the Vietnam era, and the negative connotations now associated with the word are thanks to the radical nuts of the day.

Wouldn't it be easier, and wouldn't we increase our chances of success, if we simply left that alone for now? It seems to me that it would be difficult and time consuming to shift the meaning of "liberal" back into it's original form. Why not come up with a new term to describe people that would fit into the traditional meaning of liberalism and continue ostracizing the modern day nuts as "liberals"?
15 posted on 09/17/2004 1:49:04 PM PDT by Jaysun (The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action)
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It seems Lawrence Auster was actually the author of this article. Why wasn't he included in the author section of the "post a new thread" form?


16 posted on 09/17/2004 1:51:25 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Ares does not spare the good, but the bad.)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Nothing? Unless they start to think for themselves and see that they are getting overtop in the agenda they are pushing and will only contribute to social and cultural decline in the long run.


17 posted on 09/17/2004 1:56:41 PM PDT by mewper (W is for WISDOM. Yes, strength and wisdom are NOT mutually exclusive.)
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To: RockinRight

"What would happen if a Republican had said that racist thing, or improperly taken that top secret document, or groped that woman in the White House?"

That's it in a nutshell!


18 posted on 09/17/2004 1:59:29 PM PDT by airborne (God answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is ,"No".)
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To: Dumb_Ox; Zyke
Excellent article, but author not mentioned. Here goes: "Lawrence Auster is the author of Erasing America: The Politics of the Borderless Nation. He runs the weblog View from the Right."

I just bookmarked his Blog for later perusal.

I would also add the other fallacy of the Left namely: presumably the double-standard is temporary and ends when the two (or more) groups have reached equality: which is NEVER in an ever changing dynamic.
19 posted on 09/17/2004 2:05:03 PM PDT by beckaz (MSM: We have and are yesterday's news)
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To: Zyke

Nutshell version: Liberals are self-hating pussies without any apparent link to the real world.


20 posted on 09/17/2004 2:08:40 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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