Mikhail Gorbachev and Boris Yeltsin Speak out Against Putin’s Reforms

"If you cannot recognize the obvious, or are in a contained-hysteria denial-of-reality, further discussion about it with someone on a message board forum is not going to influence your opinion."

Yours is the typical zealot response, not much different than a Muslim extremist:"believe what I believe because I am absolutely right, and no one else's opinions but mine own count."

"I'm sure you've been involved with these discussions before and simply refused to accept what others are telling you."

In other words, in your world free thinking is a negative thing, and people should simply accept what they are told by those who deem themselves their betters. Again, your mentality is akin to that of a Muslim extremist, who accuses anyone who questions their words and opinions as being everything from an infidel, to an Israeli spy.

"Being wrong on a key issue like this is what brings people to a morally inverted view of reality--like the European's ideological outlook today."

I think that YOU are wrong.

This entire discussion between you and I, began on post #253, where you asked me some questions, and attempted to draw some sort of equivalency between the Patriot Act, and Putin’s move to revert to the old Soviet method of appointing regional governors according to Party line.

I responded to them in my post #303, and try as I might to find irrational verbiage in my response, I see none.

I did however engage in a bit of fortune telling, insofar as I asked you whether you were now going to correct my beliefs.

Sure enough, you came back and began doing just that in your post #368

"Luis, another words, you have utterly marred judgment."

That of course, marked the start of the usual personal assaults.

I responded to your absurd proposition that Beslan was the norm in the Muslim world ("…the behavior at the Beslam school is hardly an aberration in Muslim world.") in my post #377 by citing figures of the major Muslim countries in the world, A.K.A, the Muslim world, pointing out that the vast majority of Muslim nations do not engage in the sort of behavior witnessed at Beslan, and that in fact, Chechnya, Sudan, Syria are the actual aberrations of the Muslim world.

You responded in post #380 with some more unsupported, erroneous fact about "...14 centuries of Islamic history", I assume that you mean wars of conquest and expansion; things not mirrored in the Christian world…

That post of yours fulfilled my little exercise in fortune telling way back in post #303, as you began correcting my beliefs, and went full-tilt on the personal attacks and character assassinations:

"If you cannot recognize the obvious, or are in a contained-hysteria denial-of-reality, further discussion about it with someone on a message board forum is not going to influence your opinion. I'm sure you've been involved with these discussions before and simply refused to accept what others are telling you. Being wrong on a key issue like this is what brings people to a morally inverted view of reality--like the European's ideological outlook today."

In my response to you, post #381, I pointed out the similarities between you and extremists, insofar as you both believe that anyone who does not see the world exactly as you do, is wrong, or mentally sick. My statements are self-evidentiary.

What’s truly, truly funny, is that you accuse me of responding in an irrational manner, and engaging in hysteria as you try to actually explain that what you said was not what you meant, after failing to support one single one of your propositions with any evidence, and after calling me all the names for not believing as you do, you question the fact that you have thus far behaved exactly as a Muslim (or any) extremist behaves, and have now begun using foul language in your responses.

I would say that the only one behaving hysterically and irrationally here is you.

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