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To: Honestly; ExSoldier
I have considered that, but I am not sure that any of our B-2 stealth bombers have been modified to carry such a beast and it is too big for an F-117. Any of our conventional bombers (B-52 or B-1) would have been detected. Origional design of the MOAB was to be kicked out the back of a C-130 with the main difference that the C-130 could be considerably higher than for the daisy cutter and with the bomb guidance, far more accurate.

Just what happened will be speculation for a while, however, I suspect another safety violation in their rocket fuel plant or munitions plant, all in the same vicinity.

568 posted on 09/15/2004 7:49:51 AM PDT by Godzilla (9/11 - Never Forget, Never Forgive)
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To: Godzilla
"I have considered that, but I am not sure that any of our B-2 stealth bombers have been modified to carry such a beast and it is too big for an F-117. Any of our conventional bombers (B-52 or B-1) would have been detected. Origional design of the MOAB was to be kicked out the back of a C-130 with the main difference that the C-130 could be considerably higher than for the daisy cutter and with the bomb guidance, far more accurate."

Maybe there is a new fangled conventional (pseudo conventional!) weapon compression technology bomb that the stealth can carry? I'm sure we have lots of toys still in the DoD toybox.
573 posted on 09/15/2004 8:46:12 AM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Godzilla
I suspect another safety violation in their rocket fuel plant or munitions plant, all in the same vicinity.

Yup, I completely concur. And aren't both the Daisy Cutter and MOAB designed to be dropped "reatrded" in that they both require some sort of either 'cute or guidance fins, which also slows their descent? I'm not sure that any of our bombers would be capable of dropping something with a 'chute or especially large fins.

I think this was an accident, pure and simple. BUT if I were thinking of some sort of ordnance, I might be considering a propane bomb. I don't know the exact nomenclature, but a buddy of mine described them as being very effective in underground "spaces" like a tunnel complex or caverns. The device is long and cylindrical and pointed on one end. It is designs to be nose heavy and penetrate into the space (meaning that the area penetrated can't be really DEEP). Then the outer case splits apart and releases a large amount of propane gas. On a timer (giving the propane time to disseminate) the secondary trigger is activated and the propane explodes over a large area. I'm told the concussion alone is enough to kill over a half mile from point of detonation underground. I would think that the possibility of creating secondary explosions is rather high. BUT I still think this was an accident borne of incompetence.

611 posted on 09/15/2004 5:52:46 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1A: Any mission. Any conditions. Any foe. At any range.)
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