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Live Thread: CBS Evening News (Dan tells us why we're all wrong)
www.freerepublic.com | September 10, 2004

Posted on 09/10/2004 3:18:38 PM PDT by Howlin

Edited on 09/10/2004 4:53:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Dont Mention the War
Brit Hume primarily ... it ended not long ago. Watching Shep Smith now. It's 4.44pm. All the cable shows are live right now. They repeat every three hours ... but I am normally too tired to watch them later.

You'll often see me on this site at 3am in the morning when I wake.

921 posted on 09/10/2004 4:45:14 PM PDT by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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To: dawn53

Mort was as mad as I've ever seen him

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I think Mort is going to cast his secret ballot for W!


922 posted on 09/10/2004 4:45:30 PM PDT by maica (W is for Winner)
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To: Petronski
OK, thanks, buddy...

BUT...to the point...NOBODY on earth could have used whatever version of Times New Roman in the 70's unless they had a damned Linotype printer used exclusively in the printing industry!

Do I have that right?

923 posted on 09/10/2004 4:45:34 PM PDT by Airborne Longhorn
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To: YaYa123

The obvious question to ask is why anyone should answer questions raised by a forged memo? It's like a five-year old kid caught taking the last cookie from the jar asking who took the others. By continuing to ignore the obvious (i.e. forged documents) and to divert attention, they just show their single-minded hatred of the President and expose their never-ending effort to bring him down.


924 posted on 09/10/2004 4:45:47 PM PDT by CedarDave (USCG Vietnam vet to DC from NM on 9/12 for the "Kerry Lied...While Good Men Died" rally. Join us!)
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To: franklog

Geo. Soros son??????


925 posted on 09/10/2004 4:46:01 PM PDT by soozla ("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
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To: dawn53

Good job dawn...... you did precisely the right thing.


926 posted on 09/10/2004 4:46:12 PM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: Dont Mention the War
During the daytime, yes, it is live all day. I was only referring to the time period after 11:00 p.m. Eastern/8:00 p.m. Pacific.

Then why wasn't Dan's evening news live here in LA at 6:30pm Eastern?

927 posted on 09/10/2004 4:47:02 PM PDT by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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To: Howlin
The CBS defense has already been debunked by the IMB Selectric manual. read all about it here.

Yet the IBM Selectric Composer's own manual makes superscripting of the type seen in the CBS forgeries impossible. This section is taken from page 51 of the manual (page 56 of the .pdf):

As you can see, the super- and sub-scripting available to these typewriters only involved the raising or lowering of letters; it obviously couldn't make them any smaller, since the wheel was fixed-point.

To repeat: a typewriter could only raise or lower letters -- it couldn't make them smaller or larger because the wheel used fixed-size characters. The CBS forgeries contain Microsoft-style mini-font superscripts, which could not be done even on a typewriter with superscripting ability.

The only way a fixed-type machine could have made the Microsoftian-style superscripts is if there was a special key for "st" or "th" -- and, according to the IBM manual's page 167 (page 172 of the .pdf), there were no such special character unit values.

For CBS to say "but typewriters in the day could do superscripts" ignores the whole point of why the superscripting in the forged documents are so persuasive -- the letters on a fixed-size metal wheel can't just get smaller or larger. They must know this, and therefore their continued attempts to deceive the American public are even more sickening.

928 posted on 09/10/2004 4:47:50 PM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: Airborne Longhorn

That is my understanding. I am as much an expert on this as Marcel wassizname on SeeBS.


929 posted on 09/10/2004 4:47:59 PM PDT by Petronski (I'd like to volunteer to build a barn and take you press guys out behind it and kick your asses.)
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To: Airborne Longhorn

There were also optical typesetting machines that would create letters photographically and could print a page of typeset material using a silver stat process. Those machines cost $20,000 and were seriously hard to learn to use.


930 posted on 09/10/2004 4:48:16 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

"Comparing both candidates handwriting (especially as it concerns the dotting of i s), it becomes apparent to the layest of laymen that John Kerry's heart-dots show a true war hero who loved his country enough to cry out against the war. While the illegitimate W.'s non-descript dotting shows a man clearly on the run from his official duties. And most likely, a possible puppy abuser."

931 posted on 09/10/2004 4:48:49 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: MEG33
Hello,

I just wrote you a long reply about TX (born there, parents the only conservatives for counties...) and it didn't post. Bummer. Oh well, I believe you could be right, the Dems in TX play really dirty. (Don't get me started on LBJ please!)

Glad to be here, MOgirl
932 posted on 09/10/2004 4:49:21 PM PDT by MOgirl (In memory of Walton Wayne Callahan, I love you forever.)
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To: Southack
"Additional items to add to your list:"
I would also add that they use of "CYA" is suspect. CYA is often spoken, but typing it out as the title of a document is suspicious.
933 posted on 09/10/2004 4:49:29 PM PDT by afz400
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To: saminfl
Stupid me doesn't know what kerning is. Can you explain it to me please?

Kerning is the amount of space between individual letters. Computer word-processing programs know how to put the optimal amount of space between any two letters in a way most pleasing to the human eye. Typewriters cannot do this. The Democrats are attempting to confuse people by saying that typewriters were available in the early 1970s that offered "proportional spacing." That is true, but proportional spacing is not the same thing as kerning. Kerning is proportional spacing taking up an order of magnitude, and it can only be done by hand, or by computer. Not by typewriter.

Since the documents exactly match the kerning done automatically by Microsoft Word, it is impossible that the documents were created in 1973. IMPOSSIBLE. The only explanation is that they are frauds.

934 posted on 09/10/2004 4:49:45 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (we use the ¡°ml maximize¡± command in Stata to obtain estimates of each aj , bj, and cm.)
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To: Petronski

And why is Marcel saying that it is important to note that the White House hasn't disputed whether or not the documents are authentic? What difference does that make to a suppossed independent expert?


935 posted on 09/10/2004 4:50:06 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: need_a_screen_name

Thanks. I posted it as a separate thread immediately at the end of Rather's segment, but the thread was pulled as duplicating the jist of this live thread.


936 posted on 09/10/2004 4:50:09 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Calpernia
"PLUS I provided the information from the source."

The information you provided is not from Indymedia itself, it is a posting on the Indymedia open newsline. Anyone can post anything on the newsline. Try it.

937 posted on 09/10/2004 4:50:12 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (This message prepared with MS-CBS Word 72 software)
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To: SerpentDove

Exactly, what rebel rouser!


938 posted on 09/10/2004 4:50:42 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: glockem

Authenticating fraud....where are the originals?

Check them for biometric information.


939 posted on 09/10/2004 4:51:16 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: soozla
Sorry - all my info was in different posts. Someone asked about "Robert Strong" who was apparently in the CBS non-story on air. There's a "Robert Strong" who is a professor at Washington and Lee University and is that school's liason to the "Paul & Daisy Soros Fellowships for New Americans." Later research showed that "Paul Soros is George's Brother." It is still not known if this Robert Strong is the CBS Robert Strong. Anyone?

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940 posted on 09/10/2004 4:51:35 PM PDT by franklog
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