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Ever read a title and go huh? This should be about Kerry dimming in the Clinton sun. Go figure.
1 posted on 09/07/2004 12:08:35 AM PDT by Former Military Chick
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>>>So Kerry has three battles to wage. He has to fight Bush and his attacks. After all that was said about him at the Republican convention, you would think that Kerry has all the incentives he needs. He has to show voters what he is fighting for. And he has to reassure an anxious party that he has a plan to be back in the thick of things by the beginning of October. <<< --- says Mr. Dionne Jr

If a tree falls in the forest does anyone hear it?


2 posted on 09/07/2004 12:11:03 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (Ticked OFF in the heartland.)
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To: Former Military Chick

How does EJ Dione keep a job? He replaces interesting examination of issues with wishful thinking.


3 posted on 09/07/2004 12:12:36 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Former Military Chick
Ever read a title and go huh? This should be about Kerry dimming in the Clinton sun. Go figure.

This election is going exactly as planned by democrats. Namely Bill and Hillary. Kerry must lose so that Hillary can run in 2008.

4 posted on 09/07/2004 12:14:36 AM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven?)
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To: Former Military Chick
Democrats outside the Kerry campaign have been in a grumpy, jumpy mood since the oxymoronically named Swift Boat Veterans for Truth pushed the media into a frenzy

The Post doesn't even try to hide its bias anymore.

You wanna real oxymoron? Try this one: "John Kerry - war hero." That one ranks right up there with 'jumbo shrimp.'

6 posted on 09/07/2004 12:17:27 AM PDT by Prime Choice (Democrats. They want to have their cake and eat yours too.)
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To: Former Military Chick

This Dionne person is in contracted content to the Japanese newspaper The Daily Yomiuri as well, along with many other Post "journalists." I quickly discovered how wacko liberal these people can be. I believe this Dionne dude also hosted the "My Life" signing party in D.C. and yet wants to be seen as "objective."


7 posted on 09/07/2004 12:21:02 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Former Military Chick
E.J. was so good at blasting away at Clinton,what happened to make him so blind?

The president can't run on his record? The SBVs are going into "overkill"? Clinton was "the comeback kid" AFTER the primaries were over and done with? What alternate universe is E.J. living in?

9 posted on 09/07/2004 12:28:02 AM PDT by nopardons
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"oxymoronically named Swift Boat Veterans for Truth"

What type of garbage comment is that? I've yet to see any evidence the Vets have been anything but 100% accurate.


16 posted on 09/07/2004 12:35:44 AM PDT by Dragonspirit (A RINO is someone not voting for President Bush in 2004 while claiming to be a conservative.)
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To: Former Military Chick
the anti-Kerry ads fit so neatly with the Republican Convention's goal of painting Kerry as soft on defense and not tough enough to deal with terrorism that it becomes ever harder to believe the Bush campaign's denials of any involvement with the Swift boat group.

I know a little bit about that subject, and my response is that it becomes ever harder to believe that E. J. Dionne Jr. and the rest of the staff at the Washington Post have the slightest idea what they are talking about, or the slightest interest in telling the truth, or even in finding out what the truth is.

From the very beginning, they have blown off the Swift Vets because they just plain don't like the idea of their guy (the Democrat) taking any lumps. The Post has done one reasonable article on the subject, and what they concluded was that the SwiftVets' version of events was substantially correct... when a mine went off under PCF 3, all the other boats but one closed on the '3' boat to render assistance. One boat fled down the river — Kerry's. For this Kerry got a medal.

In spite of that, most staffers at the Post cling to the absolute lie that the Swift Vets' charges have somehow been disproven or discredited. How could they be? Kerry refuses to sign the Form 180 that would allow reporters to see the records. In the absence of them, the Democrat reporters believe the Democrat, and tell the rest of us that the SwiftVets are liars.

Aside from Kerry himself, the liars in the piece are people like E.J. Dionne, who will refer to the "oxymoronically named" Swift Boat Veterans for Truth without having looked into the charges at all, except to take Kerry's word that everything happened the way he said. Real journalists would be badgering Kerry to sign the 180 so we can all see the records. But they don't do that. Instead they join Kerry in his lies, and smear a group of 250 decorated war veterans.

These stupid reporters cannot get it through their heads that the Swift Boat Veterans have nothing to do with Bush, or with being for Bush. They are against Kerry. They are against him because he fabricated spot reports to win himself a bunch of fancy medals, and then abandoned his crew after 4 months in country to return to the United States and begin a career as Jane Fonda's lackey, where he proceeded to orchestrate false testimony at the so-called "Winter Soldier investigation" and then presented what he knew to be false testimony to the Senate of the United States. And in so doing slandered every member of the military at the time.

People like E. J. Dionne cannot fathom why anyone might still be angry about that 30 years later. That's his problem. When he tells us lies about the Swift Vets being connected to the Bush campaign, it becomes our problem. We have entirely too many reporters and editors telling us lies because they themselves are Democrats and their natural instinct is to attack anyone who threatens their precious Democratic candidate. It's time for them to stop that crap and start doing their jobs. How does Kerry have a Silver Star with a combat 'V'? There is no such medal. But there it is, on Kerry's web site. How does Kerry have a citation signed by Navy Secretary Lehman? Lehman says he never heard of it, and never signed any such thing. And yet reporters continue to tell us that "naval records" support Kerry. No they don't, dammit. We not only have Kerry lying about this stuff, the reporters are all lying with him.

E.J. Dionne can go to Hell. He's a dishonest, lazy journalist who lets his own politics stand between him and telling people the truth.


20 posted on 09/07/2004 12:49:20 AM PDT by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com www.wintersoldier.com www.kerrylied.com)
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I'm not a Dionne fan but (being as objective as I can) this is the most pathetic political analysis I've seen in a long time.

The more I read the astute critical analysis and thought that much of the blogoshpere has introduced into the political seen, I've lost respect for many of these "professional" journalists.

This article is an embarrassment.

21 posted on 09/07/2004 1:07:08 AM PDT by zarf
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To: Former Military Chick
Democrats outside the Kerry campaign have been in a grumpy, jumpy mood since the oxymoronically named Swift Boat Veterans for Truth pushed the media into a frenzy over what Kerry did and didn't do in Vietnam.

Nope...no bias here.

22 posted on 09/07/2004 1:09:02 AM PDT by Aracelis
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"the oxymoronically named Swift Boat Veterans for Truth..."

I think I'll stop reading right there. If this guy thinks the Swift Boat Vets aren't telling the truth, then he's completely out of touch with reality.

30 posted on 09/07/2004 2:32:35 AM PDT by carl in alaska (Suddenly the raven on Scalia's shoulder stirred and spoke. Quoth the raven..."NeverGore")
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To: Former Military Chick
In fact, the anti-Kerry ads fit so neatly with the Republican Convention's goal of painting Kerry as soft on defense and not tough enough to deal with terrorism that it becomes ever harder to believe the Bush campaign's denials of any involvement with the Swift boat group.

In fact, the anti-Bush columns by commentators fit so neatly with the Democrat Convention's goal of painting Kerry as nuanced and Bush as a lying weasel that it become ever harder to believe the Kerry campaign's denials of any involvement with them.

Hey, E.J. didn't you read the memo? No more talk about the Vietnam era.

33 posted on 09/07/2004 4:09:14 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Former Military Chick
In fact, the anti-Kerry ads fit so neatly with the Republican Convention's goal of painting Kerry as soft on defense and not tough enough to deal with terrorism that it becomes ever harder to believe the Bush campaign's denials of any involvement with the Swift boat group.

Talk about your leaps of logic. No collusion is necessary.

Everyone is painting Kerry as weak, because he IS weak.

35 posted on 09/07/2004 4:22:55 AM PDT by syriacus (Kerry lied, while honorable men died. Benedict Arnold REALLY was a war hero before he was a traitor.)
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To: Former Military Chick

E. J. is wrong about everything, and always has been.

It must be strange for him, living in the real world yet writing about a nether world, a world that doesn't exist, and never will exist for anybody other than him.

His opinions aren't worth the toilet paper that he probably writes them on.


36 posted on 09/07/2004 4:47:58 AM PDT by jerod
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To: Former Military Chick
to distort Kerry's record and to lie about it if necessary -- to further that end.

Well, EJ has got the talikng points down, all right.

Distortions of Kerry's "record" at the convention?

Name one.

That should be our answer to every charge of "distortion" or "smear" or "attack"-NAME JUST ONE.

They can't handle the truth.

37 posted on 09/07/2004 4:53:49 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Hillary becomes the RAT candidate on October 9. You saw it here first.)
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> the oxymoronically named Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

The most idiotic statement imaginable. I join others in asking how this shill keeps his job. What a disgrace.

letters@washpost.com


41 posted on 09/07/2004 5:14:57 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Former Military Chick
Kerry's views were easily parodied by Republicans in New York because voters are still not clear on what Kerry stands for and what he would do for them.

Maybe that's cause Kerry doesn't know himself
42 posted on 09/07/2004 5:36:34 AM PDT by uncbob
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