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Liberals Losing it over Swift Boat Charges - Fox News Watch Libs on Brink of Breakdown
Fox News Watch - FNC

Posted on 08/29/2004 3:55:11 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

The pounding Kerry has been taking from the Swift Boat Veterans over his Vietnam record, and his concomitant poll plunge, is literally driving his liberal supporters crazy.

The evidence was at hand on last evening's Fox Media Watch (the rebroadcast of which I'm watching this morning at 6:30-7 AM EDT).

In all my years of watching the show, I cannot recall the resident liberals - Jane Hall (a woman of a certain age), and the small-but-perfeectly formed Neal Gabler - so absolutely beside themselves.

So frenzied was Gabler that you almost imagined the men in white suits would have to make an appearance before Gabler hurt someone or himself. He was apoplectic at the notion that the panel was discussing the merits of the issue at all, declaring that this just played into Karl Rove's diabolical plot. He simply wanted to declare that the allegations were false, a fraud, etc. and would brook no debate.

Biting the Fox paw that feeds her, Jane Hall blamed "the cable news networks" for perpetuating the story. Both the libs agreed that it was wrong of the media to present both sides of the story, since in their view there is only one side - all the Swift Boat Vets for Truth are lying.

When Cal Thomas attempted to cite the statement by William L. Schachte Jr., a retired rear admiral, to the effect that he was on the same small boat as Kerry but did not witness any enemy fire during the event for which Kerry received his first Purple Heart, Gabler totally lost it. He screamed and cut Cal off, determined that there would be no more discussion of the issue.

Never have I seen the libs in such blind panic and fury. They know that Kerry's lies about his record have come home to roost and will ultimately cost him the election. It was glorious!


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerry; panic; sbv; swiftboatveterans; unhinged
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

121 posted on 08/29/2004 7:22:50 AM PDT by geedee (In politics, an absurdity is not a handicap.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The rats have been spoiled by the near-perfection of the lies perpetrated by i42 and his sometimes-roommate Hildy.

They are having a hard time trying to boost someone not nearly as likeable or competent in deception.

122 posted on 08/29/2004 7:25:32 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: OldFriend
You're right---that's what they tried to do---but look at what has happened as a result of the media trying to HELP KERRY:

Every new Kerry vet who supports him, every critical story of the Swiftvets, every attack on Bush's "connection" to the ads---every one of these merely keeps the story alive an adds to the sense in some peoples' minds that "something is fishy." But wait! It gets even better: Let's say you're a voter not sure whether to believe the Swiftboat vets' ads or not, at the very least what they have done is to obliterate two years' worth of groundlaying by the Dems with the "Bush lied" mantra. At the very worst, uninformed voters now say, "They both lied." (I know, this is ridiculous, but try to think like an uninformed voter for a minute). If "they both lied," then Kerry has to have some hugely appealing traits or programs that would convince people to abandon an incumbent, and he doesn't! So at the very least, the Swiftboat vets---and the unintentional support they got from the media---destroyed the entire pre-Dem Convention strategy of the last two years! It's a beautiful thing to watch.

123 posted on 08/29/2004 7:26:50 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: LS
"If "they both lied," then Kerry has to have some hugely appealing traits or programs that would convince people to abandon an incumbent, and he doesn't! So at the very least, the Swiftboat vets---and the unintentional support they got from the media---destroyed the entire pre-Dem Convention strategy of the last two years! It's a beautiful thing to watch."

It's going to get better.

124 posted on 08/29/2004 7:28:32 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: G L Tirebiter

Georgie Tirebiter! He's a student like me!


125 posted on 08/29/2004 7:29:47 AM PDT by JennysCool (Funny how militant environmentalists always ruin the lawn)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

LOL

Not funny but is that Jonestown. The kool aid folks.


126 posted on 08/29/2004 7:30:47 AM PDT by angcat
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To: Samizdat

"Conservatives have no cojones. We saw that during the clintoon era. He literally got away with murder while we stood by and watched."

Those 900 FBI files sure came in handy, didn't they?


127 posted on 08/29/2004 7:31:50 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Rolling ball bearings in her hand, she was muttering "It was the strawberries that gave it away"....


128 posted on 08/29/2004 7:31:51 AM PDT by Rockiesrider
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To: afz400

These indivdiduals are neobolsheviks, what do you expect? The ends always justify the means with the left.


129 posted on 08/29/2004 7:34:12 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite
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To: afz400

"The ends always justify the means with the left."

LOL, it's too early....*YAWN*

I meant the means justify the ends.


130 posted on 08/29/2004 7:37:14 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite
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To: Perseverando
...what can/will the 'rats do to to give themselves a chance of winning the election?

A Thursday before the election release of 'just found' pictures of W exiting his fighter plane while obviously drunk?

131 posted on 08/29/2004 7:37:36 AM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: 4woodenboats
My feeling is they need to point out the exact lies these Swift boat vets have told. So far I have not seen where they are lying. But the media keeps telling me they are lying.

The problem is that most people do not get their news from Free Republic and will believe these guys are liars beacuse the media said so!

Just like Newsweek on MTP today...we have cleared up this whole thing and John Kerry is telling the truth.

Did John Kerry sign a form to release all his records that we little people do not know about?

132 posted on 08/29/2004 7:42:42 AM PDT by tndarlin
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
What was the complaint about Good Morning America that they mentioned? I missed that part.
133 posted on 08/29/2004 7:53:44 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Qwinn2
Edwards will be put on top of the ticket, and he'll pick a new VP. They'll put him in as "the candidate with no negatives" just a few days before the election, so that it'll be a guy who's been getting pummeled on for 4 years straight by a hostile media against a guy who's had no media (old or new) scrutiny at all.

I speculated "Edwards" a couple weeks ago too, but without the insights that you provided here. Edwards has a fairly powerful machine behind him, too.

In any event, I think this will be an unsettling election. People will be uneasy with changes in the ticket "at the last minute," or even after the election. But, them's the breaks.

134 posted on 08/29/2004 7:58:55 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Semper Paratus
That's it! Kerry will have a ralapse of cancer and withdraw witihin a week of the election. Because most ballots are printed and absentees have already voted the 'rats will flood the Courts with suits to postpone the elcction for a few months "to be fair".

Kerry could resign under any number of pretenses, and the relapse is one of the better ones to use.

The ballots are irrelevant. We vote for electors (who are associated with political parties), not candidates, in presidential elections. Then the electors cast ballots for the person of the president, in December.

US Code, Title 3, Chapter 1 <--PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES

135 posted on 08/29/2004 8:03:52 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; neverdem; Congressman Billybob; Howlin
Must be a new dnc faux fax sheet going out ...

This is the third time (fourth maybe ?) that I've heard "Carl Rowe" introduced as a "maniac behind the scenes" causing the problem....

Maybe their latest focus group was asked the question. " If you heard Carl Rowe was behind President Bush's latest smear campaign smearing John Kerry's heroic Vietnam record, would you be more likely vote for the heroic John Kerry, or George Bush, who used money from his dad's oil connections to stay away from Vietnam?"
136 posted on 08/29/2004 8:13:46 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!))
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To: Quilla
"Every time I watch that show I hold my breath waiting for someone, anyone to say "Jane you ignorant ...."

ROTFL! I'm sure there are plenty saying it at home.

137 posted on 08/29/2004 8:16:23 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: Turbo Pig
Like their communist ancestors, today's international liberals have a religious fervor that REQUIRES they have no morals, only raw determination and zealotry to destroy white religious capitalistic oil-connected conservative males ...

I.E. George Bush.
138 posted on 08/29/2004 8:17:06 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!))
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To: Peach
If the GOP doesn't use these quotes during the convention I will personally stroke out.

LOL! You and me both.

Thanks for the links.

139 posted on 08/29/2004 8:19:47 AM PDT by rake (defeat the MSM!)
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To: rake

You are very welcome. Now we just have to use them!!!


140 posted on 08/29/2004 8:20:43 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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